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		<title>The Meeting from Hell.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">P</font>ease pardon the interruption on this post.  I began making revisions, and then more, and then decided to just take it down until I&#8217;m happy with it.</p>
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		<title>The accidental confirmation of a disciple.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Synopsis :: REVISED: 2010 JUL 26 — A sociopath may have many, many followers, but a disciple would belong to the sociopath&#8217;s most trusted inner-circle. A disciple is completely devoted and loyal, based on a combination of being shallow, gullible, needy, as well as ignorant. They are the ultimate groupies. &#160; My week began with [...]]]></description>
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<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#005590"><strong>Synopsis :: </strong>REVISED:  2010 JUL 26 — A sociopath may have many, many followers, but a <b>disciple would belong to the sociopath&#8217;s most trusted inner-circle.</b> A disciple is completely devoted and loyal, based on a combination of being shallow, gullible, needy, as well as ignorant. They are the ultimate groupies. </font><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/disciple-synopsis.png" rel="5068"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/synopsis-th.png" alt="" border="0" /></a>
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<font size="5" face="Georgia">M</font>y week began with a brief call intended for my brother, Alan, but instead turned into a long call with his wife, Karen.  I believe we spoke for close to two hours, something I don&#8217;t believe she and I had ever done before.</p>
<p>A couple days after that call, though, something hit me: <h>an overwhelming intuition that Karen has been kept in the dark.</h>  I have no idea why that instinct took so long to arrive, but in my mind, it was unquestionable.  <h>There were parts of the conversation that I felt Karen should have been aware of, but she wasn&#8217;t.</h> By the time the instinct arrived, I couldn&#8217;t even remember which parts they were.  I only felt that darkness that surrounded her.  <span id="more-5068"></span></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t hold something in about someone, if I know they are being used or mistreated.  There is a fine line there, since it&#8217;s not the norm to speak out, but there are the times that necessity rules. It can be a no-win situation, but I&#8217;ve had enough wins to make it worth while.</p>
<p>I needed to tell Karen, without any embellishment, exactly what I felt. Throughout my life, I&#8217;ve learned that my instincts are usually never wrong, and this one felt especially certain.</p>
<h6>The second call to Karen.</h6>
<p>Since I knew my chances of getting her at home were slim, I called her at her office.  The call was not meant to last long, and I only intended to provide information, not inquire about any.  In so many words, this is what I said:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;After we spoke, I had an overwhelming instinct.  I have no proof whatsoever, but I felt I needed to share it with you just as an FYI — just so you can be aware of it, and I can get it off my chest.  Based on parts of our discussion that you seemed unfamiliar with, I had a strong sense that you are being kept in the dark at some level.  And that&#8217;s it.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Karen&#8217;s response was one of surprise, but it included a dash of defensiveness.  Within just the first few minutes, she stated, <font color="#cc0000"><em>&#8220;Well <h>I don&#8217;t have any reason to believe that Alan is <u>lying</u> to me</h> &#8230;&#8221; </em> </font></p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><em>&#8220;Wait! <h>I <u>never</u> said that I thought you were being lied to &#8230; I said &#8216;kept in the dark&#8217;</h> and there&#8217;s a huge difference.  Kept in the dark just means you are not being told everything.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Unlike the long call we had, Karen had dropped into a defensive mode, even though my only message had been the darkness instinct.  </p>
<p><h>Figuring it was a good time to change subjects, I recalled an old question that I had always wanted to ask her, and that was regarding Alan&#8217;s behavior at their wedding</h>, about 25 years ago, where I was best man.  I asked Karen if Alan ever apologized to her, since he never did to me.&#185;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#cc0000"><strong>K: </strong><em>&#8220;Yes he did.  Actually, <h>Alan has changed a lot since then.</h>&#8220;</em></font>&nbsp;  <h>Karen does not seem to know what a <strong>persona</strong> is, though she can unknowingly identify when Alan created his.</h></p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><em>&#8220;<h>No, he really hasn&#8217;t. Al hasn&#8217;t changed. He&#8217;s still the same.</h>&#8220;</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#cc0000"><strong>K: </strong><h><em>&#8220;Oh no, he has definitely changed to me.&#8221;</h></em></font></p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><h><em>&#8220;All he&#8217;s done is modify his behavior for you &#8230; it&#8217;s for control. If he had actually changed, everyone would see it, and he would have apologized to me, too, for the way he treated me on your wedding day.&#8221;</h></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#cc0000"><strong>K: </strong><em><h>&#8220;Alan told me that never happened.&#8221;</em></h></font></p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><em>&#8220;What?!&nbsp;  <h>Why would he bring up and explain something to you after he stated it never took place?</h>&#8220;</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#cc0000"><strong>K: </strong><em>&#8220;Al told me that you told him, and <h>Al told me it was a lie.</h>&#8220;</em></font></p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><em><h>&#8220;Wow! You just confirmed a bunch of stuff for me.  First, Al&#8217;s <u>not</u> just keeping you in the dark, he&#8217;s blatantly lying to you.  He&#8217;s also manipulating and controlling you.  And, you confirmed that he is still attacking my character.&#8221;</h></em> </p>
<p><strong>L: </strong><em>&#8220;He took an opportunity to tell you that I&#8217;m lying about something that <h>he&#8217;s <u>never</u> denied to me, yet now he denies it to you in private, thus implicating me as a liar</h>. </p>
<p><h>Tell me, Karen, when you have ever caught me lying?&nbsp; I&#8217;ll answer that for you — you <u>never</u> have, nor has anyone else.</h>&nbsp; But since he&#8217;s your husband, you would naturally believe him, even though he&#8217;s a pathological liar. <h>It&#8217;s just Alan taking an opportunity to continue my character assassination</h>.&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#cc0000"><strong>K: </strong><em>&#8220;None of that proves anything to me &#8230; it&#8217;s still your word against his.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><h>Karen was correct. I had not provided any undeniable substantiation, but her comment made me believe that she would not go out of her way to discover the truth, especially if doing so could create a conflict with her established loyalties — her one big loyalty being Alan, her husband.</h> Given Alan&#8217;s violent and hot-tempered demeanor, I&#8217;ve always wondered if her loyalty to him could be partially fueled by intimidation.</p>
<p>Karen had to get back to work, so our call ended right here.  We spoke for about 15 minutes. </p>
<h6>The best was yet to come.</h6>
<p>During that next weekend, as <h>I thought back to that second call with Karen, I was drawn to a comment she made, which at the time, surprised me because it off-topic</h>.  In the middle of discussing her wedding day back in the 1980s, Karen jumped to an event in 2006 which she said occurred at Kathy&#8217;s Arizona home, during the time mom was there.  </p>
<p>Karen told me that when I called Kathy&#8217;s house and asked for mom, <h>mom replied by saying she did <u>not</u> want to speak with me.</h>  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a misinterpretation that I&#8217;ve heard many times since dad died, and most likely planted by Kathy with that specific goal — <em>to be hurtful.</em>&nbsp; <h>I told Karen that it&#8217;s commonly misunderstood, as mom did not like to speak with me in front of anyone, especially dad when he was alive.</h>  </p>
<p><h>I had the closest relationship with mom out of anyone in the family, and when mom was alone at home, we&#8217;d talk and laugh for one, even two hours</h> until dad came home.  Karen responded somewhat surprised, and got kind of quiet, at which point I moved us back to the topic we were on.</p>
<p>But as I thought through Karen&#8217;s comment again, <h>something hit me as odd. I remember clearly that Karen said <u>she</u> was right there with mom when I had called, and that she directly heard mom say she did not want to speak with me.  That&#8217;s about as close as one can get to an outright admission, since based on that, <b><em>Karen had just <u>lied</u> to me.</b></em></h>&nbsp; That story was fabricated.</p>
<p><h>That slip-up on Karen&#8217;s part just proved her to be a sociopath&#8217;s <b>disciple</b> — <em>someone who will lie to protect the person they say <u>never</u> lies.</h></em>  Additionally, it potentially added her to my list of those attacking my character, since her off-topic comment was meant to be hurtful.</p>
<h6>How Karen <u>almost</u> got away with it.</h6>
<p>You see, the event Karen described <h>would have required that I was on the phone and calling Kathy&#8217;s house to speak with mom &#8230; <em>but I wasn&#8217;t.</em></h>&nbsp;  Once Kathy got mom to her house, she told me on the phone, in the most evil manner, that I would never speak with mom again &#8230; still laughing as she slammed down the phone. </p>
<p><h>After that, I called mom only at the hospital &#8230; <em><u>never</u> again at Kathy&#8217;s.</h></em>  </p>
<p><h>Hence, that event that Karen claimed she overheard while at Kathy&#8217;s house had <u>never</u> taken place.</h>  And what really surprised me, was I almost missed that Karen&#8217;s comment was a completely fabricated lie &#8230; <em>yet it had involved <u>me</u>.</em>&nbsp;  At this point, I&#8217;m not quite sure what to think of that.</p>
<p>I decided to raise the question of accuracy with Karen, via email, and ask her to confirm when it took place. I felt as if I were giving her an opportunity to come clean, or correct herself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h6>The emails &#8230;</h6>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<br />
2010 Jun 1, 13:52</p>
<p>TO: Karen<br />
<strong>FR: Larry</strong></p>
<p>Karen,</p>
<p>You told me about the time you were at Kathy&#8217;s, when a call came in from me, and mom said she didn&#8217;t want to take the call.  That would have been in 2006.</p>
<p>Would you please confirm what month you witnessed that?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Larry</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<br />
<font color="#cc0000">2010 Jun 1, 13:56</font></p>
<p><font color="#cc0000">TO: Larry</font><br />
<font color="#cc0000"><strong>FR: Karen</strong></font></p>
<p><font color="#cc0000">Why does that matter?</font><br />
&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<br />
2010 Jun 1, <h>15:19</h></p>
<p>TO: Karen<br />
<strong>FR: Larry</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a fair question, though I bet you know the answer to it.  </p>
<p>But, I&#8217;ll answer it anyway, as soon as you answer mine.</p>
<p>And please, let&#8217;s complete this in only one more round.</p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
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2010 Jun 1, <h>17:57</h></p>
<p>TO: Karen<br />
<strong>FR: Larry</strong></p>
<p>Am I still waiting for your answer, Karen?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
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Frankly, I was surprised as to how drastic Karen has changed.  Her reaction to getting busted turned out to match exactly the way Al reacts, less his hostility.  She just quit communicating, as he does.  </p>
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<font size="1" color="#999999">Revised: 2010 Jul 26&nbsp; &nbsp; (First published: 2010 Jun 7)</font></p>
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		<title>Is it time to avenge your evil sociopath?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To begin this virtual encounter, let&#8217;s make you look invincible and utterly intimidating — that will make it super tough for you to lose, right?&#160; WRONG: It&#8217;ll give you absolutely no advantage &#8230; but please play along, OK?&#160; At six-foot-five, you were the all-star line-backer right up through college &#8230; no one in their right [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="padding-left: 17px;"><font color="#666666">To begin this virtual encounter, let&#8217;s make you look invincible and utterly intimidating — <h>that will make it super tough for you to lose, right?</h>&nbsp;  <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 17px;">WRONG: <em><h>It&#8217;ll give you absolutely <u>no</u> advantage</h> &#8230;<br />
but please play along, OK?</em>&nbsp; <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </font></p>
<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">A</font>t six-foot-five, you were the all-star line-backer right up through college &#8230; no one in their right mind messed with you.  So why on earth would you just stand by and allow this petite little &#8220;lady&#8221; to take manipulate you, use you, and endlessly lie to you. You don&#8217;t see any of it, do you?!  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see the <font color="#ff0000"><strong>RED FLAGS?</font></strong> You&#8217;re being played a fool, and my gut tells me she&#8217;s not playing any innocent courting game with you, either.  I&#8217;ve seen her when you haven&#8217;t, my friend, and that tiny little gal scares me. <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-spirits.png" rel="1"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-th.png" title="Excerpt from Julie's clinical Psychological Evaluation." alt="" border="0" /></a> I see two different people in that body, and they don&#8217;t seem to know each other. That&#8217;s how she&#8217;s got you suckered. Wake up, man!  Get your head out of those clouds, or you&#8217;ll never get it back the same &#8230; never.</p>
<p>Those who know how evil a malicious sociopath can be, are usually the ones who have already been wounded for life.  Don&#8217;t allow others to think for you.  Face-value is no-value.  Never drop your guard.  The most successful sociopaths have mastered their skills, blend into the party as the most likable people around, and are there for a specific purpose.  Whatever it is, they&#8217;ll get it.  </p>
<p>Have you determined you&#8217;re in a place that you need to get out of?<br />
Be very careful &#8230;    <span id="more-5429"></span></p>
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<h6>Avenge Analysis A</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>1 </strong> </font>  Do you have an escape plan in the works?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>2 </strong> </font>  Have you considered all the possible ramifications?  Like these? &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>3 </strong> </font>  Have you considered you will be facing someone who has <u>no</u> limitations in how they plan to completely destroy you?  That the harder you try to take them down, the harder you, yourself, will fall?  Can you imagine someone who will let nothing get in their way &#8230; not one thing, and all without a hint of remorse?  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>4 </strong> </font>  Will there be a trial, such as a divorce?  Do you believe you&#8217;ll have an advantage because you carry all the truth and you&#8217;ll be in a court room?  To them, taking the stand under oath is simply showtime. They know how to manipulate the court system, and that&#8217;s one of their most efficient weapons against you.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">They believe they have nothing to lose, because, so far, they&#8217;ve never lost.  You are just another in a long line of victims that will be used for as long as you offer value, and then be discarded. If they think you may be a threat someday, based on what you learned, they won&#8217;t let you go without destroying you first.  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">This is how they run their lives every day.  What they can do to you is beyond anything you&#8217;ve ever considered.  Just remember that this person is saving their most evil attack for you when you least expect it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>5 </strong> </font>  The sooner you realize what you are truly up against, the better chance you&#8217;ll have to avoid the evil they are ready to tear you down with. And if the threat comes from someone you had once considered a close friend, a family member, or an ex-lover (married or not) &#8230; don&#8217;t expect favors because of those connections &#8230; just the opposite.  </p>
<p><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-paranoid.png" rel="1"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-th.png" title="Excerpt from Julie's clinical Psychological Evaluation." alt="" border="0" /></a>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">From my experience, there&#8217;s a good chance those connections will play against you.  The sooner you realize that it was all a malicious farce, it was entirely faked, and that you never really knew the person other than what they acted out for you &#8230; the sooner you accept that true reality, that&#8217;s when you will see your fate. </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">You didn&#8217;t know this, but you were always expendable and disposable. Their daily lives are spent focussed on controlling you and others. As soon as you skip all the other exercises above and  focus on your escape plan, you&#8217;ll have the best chance to avoid the shocking evil that this vile individual has prepared to unload upon you.  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">You cannot allow it to begin, or it will never stop.  You must be pro-active now.  If you believe that your situation could turn violent, or already has, your number ONE responsibility is YOU.  Keep you and your loved ones safe.  That may mean you will need to move away &#8230; be prepared.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font size="4"><strong>6 </strong> </font>  So, first-things-first — have you completed your escape strategy?<br />
&nbsp;</p>
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<h6><font color="#005590">Avenge Analysis B</h6>
<p><strong>Do you still believe the danger is over-blown?</strong></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590"><font size="5" face="Georgia">I</font>f after reading the above scenario, you are still not convinced of the danger posed by a harmless-looking sociopath, the following may add some credence.  Below is a much more candid and extreme scenario, though still a very realistic possibility of the victim&#8217;s risks.  The contributing factors would <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-hostility.png" rel="1"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-th.png" title="Excerpt from Julie's clinical Psychological Evaluation." alt="" border="0" /></a>include the sociopath&#8217;s own instability, his history of unknown illegal and immoral activities, and how the sociopath sees you within his own risk comfort level.  </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">Just ask yourself if you&#8217;d want to risk pissing-off someone who is void of any feelings, nor has he ever experienced even the slightest sense of remorse, regret or shame for the extremely malicious, and sometimes violent attacks he has unleashed upon others. Whether his fears about you can be justified, or are completely fueled by paranoia, it&#8217;s all the same to him. He now considers you the biggest risk to his future; hence, you just became #1 on his &#8220;to-do&#8221; list.</font></p>
<h6 style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">Do you really want to go there?</h6>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">No matter who you are, how powerful you are, what profession you&#8217;re in, how smart you think you are, how many friends you have, no matter what you think or what anyone tells you, the odds are entirely against your success.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">A sociopath has no limits, whatsoever. Additionally, this sociopath has an enormous amount of fabricated deception and bad deeds to protect from his history. You know virtually nothing about what else he&#8217;s done. Yet, <h>your own risk level is directly proportionate to the other bad deeds he&#8217;s perpetrated</h> — so you do not even have a hint as to what your risk level is.&nbsp; Does &#8220;drive by&#8221; take on a different meaning here?</font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">What he knows all too well, yet you don&#8217;t have a clue of, is his own history of bad deeds.  Getting your vindication would be the same as he being completely exposed as a sociopath &#8230; he&#8217;ll never let that happen;  he can&#8217;t let it happen if he wants to live freely. </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">Obviously, exposure would <u>not</u> be anything this sociopath would easily accept.  Chances are, <h>you would have been reported missing some time ago,</h> and your sociopath would be on to other projects.  His public persona is gold to him.  He must make sure it stays in place, and keeps that shine. </font></p>
<h6 style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">You have become a real threat to his warped sanctity.</h6>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">If he gets clued-in that you&#8217;re planning something, he will not wait to go on the defensive.  He knows what is at risk — something you don&#8217;t — and he&#8217;ll begin with, what I call, offensive-revenge.</font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">Your success would lead to destroying his life, and potentially incarceration.  Depending on what would be revealed about his past, such as white-collar crimes, he would have everything to lose.  So there&#8217;s another thing he knows quite well, but you don&#8217;t have a clue — the gravity of his past deeds. </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">What would happen to him if you were successful in your vindication and exposure?&nbsp; If guilty of white-collar crimes, he could theoretically be sentenced to multiple prison terms, essentially making it a life sentence, similar to how Bernard Madoff will finish the rest of his life.  That nice little old man, Bernie Madoff, was able to <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-delusions.png" rel="1"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-th.png" title="Excerpt from Julie's clinical Psychological Evaluation." alt="" border="0" /></a>convince investors — from elderly widows, to large international investment firms — to hand over huge amounts of investment capital, to the tune of US$50,000,000,000.00 (fifty billion dollars) to one little old man, who spent it freely on a lavish lifestyle with his wife.  He&#8217;d party with those he stole from.  He never showed remorse. </font> </p>
<h6 style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">Do not take this lightly.</h6>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#005590">You will be risking emotional suicide, if not more. There is nothing I can give you as a comparison, because there is truly nothing that even comes close to the utter determination of success, the elimination of any obstacles, his maliciously-evil drive for offensive-revenge, his complete lack of any feelings as to how he will destroy you, what he will do to accomplish it, and how it will leave you.</font><br />
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<p><font color="#666666"><b>NOTE: </b> I use the male gender (e.g., he, him, etc.) throughout this post.  Please understand, though, that women afflicted with the same personality disorders (also referred to as sociopaths) are fully capable of being equally, if not more malicious, dangerous, and ruthless.</font></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Judicial system is crumbling. What would be the chance of it ever getting fixed? Let&#8217;s think about that. There are three branches of the Federal government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. • Which branch has the most power? Judicial. • Which is over all three, including policing itself? Judicial. • Potentially, where does the biggest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">O</font>ur Judicial system is crumbling.  What would be the chance of it ever getting fixed?  Let&#8217;s think about that.  There are three branches of the Federal government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial.  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">• Which branch has the most power? <em>Judicial.</em><br />
• Which is over all three, including policing itself?  <em>Judicial.</em><br />
• Potentially, where does the biggest problem lie?  <em>Judicial.</em> </p>
<p>The Judicial branch is our system of courts.  A courtroom is where the common man is likely going to get closest to one of the three branches of the federal government.  The top court in the country, the Supreme Court, is potentially as political as the other two branches of the government.   <span id="more-4913"></span></p>
<p>Justices are appointed by the then-sitting president, for <u>life</u> — unless the Legislative branch has a big problem with the president&#8217;s appointee. Are they ever required to prove their competency, like years down the road?  No.  What about genetic conditions that occur later in life?  Dementia?  Alzheimer&#8217;s?  <i>Just keep your eyes on the person moving their mouth — you&#8217;ll do fine.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m one who believes that <u>no</u> one deserves a life-time appointment at anything.  Not long ago, we the people, made sure that the president could only hold two terms — eight years.  Yet the president does not hold near the power as the Supreme Court.  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Case in point — December, 2000.  The Supreme Court stepped in during our election process, and in closed session, with no requirement to divulge their reasoning, handed the presidency to G.W. Bush.  The following day, everyone continued their lives as usual.  <em>Is it just me?</em></p>
<p>Frankly, I believe the country would have been in much better shape in 2008 — at the end of those two terms — if the Supreme Court had handed the presidency to me.  At least we wouldn&#8217;t have had a sociopath running the country for eight years.</p>
<h6>Closer to Home</h6>
<p>I know of one Superior Court Judge (who I&#8217;ll refer to as Judge Jones), who I have witnessed on numerous occasions, bring his own disrespect and arrogance, and potentially even racism, out into his open court room.  I fully believe that he is so into the power of the bench that it has truly gone to his head.  And, potentially worse, he may suffer from NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder; i.e, a sociopath).  </p>
<p>That also brings up a question: during our last elections, I noticed that every single incumbent Superior Court Judge ran unopposed.  What&#8217;s with that?  Instinct tells me that&#8217;s more than just a coincidence.  I would assume that many in Law would aspire to sit on the bench — especially sociopaths. </p>
<p>I was in Judge Jones&#8217; courtroom one morning as the calendar was being called. Two hispanic men stood up, evidently the one involved in the case spoke little English, so the other was there to translate.  </p>
<p>In probably less than 20 seconds, the impatient Judge completely lost his temper, and in a very loud voice, began by saying, <em>&#8220;You people come to this country &#8230;&#8221;</em>&nbsp;  and that was enough to stun me.  As Judge Jones did not appear to be native American, his own people (i.e., his ancestors) would have come to this country, too.</p>
<p>Judge Jones told him not to return until he had proper representation.  To me, that man looked like a farm laborer.  How was he to get, let alone afford, proper (i.e., bi-lingual) representation?  In this area, a typical civil retainer begins at around $3000.  </p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the equality in our justice system?</p>
<h6>At Home</h6>
<p>Julie hated paying child support. Whenever she filed a suit against me regarding child support payments (wanting to stop paying them), or custody (another way of wanting to stop paying them) — three times total — we faced Judge Jones each time.  For two kids, Julie was paying $460 <u>total</u> per month ($230 each).</p>
<p>The first two times, Julie had her divorce attorney representing her, and I had my divorce attorney representing me. She lost both times, something that most people would have predicted.  But without defending myself, they could have taken advantage of it, and as an example, taken custody.  </p>
<p>So, I did what I needed to do, and won — but at a huge cost.  Not including the divorce, the first support suit cost me about $4000 to defend, and the second cost me about $6000.  That was money I dearly needed.</p>
<p>The third time Julie filed a suit against me was actually for a very different reason — fear of exposure.  Yes, fear that her public persona could be exposed.  I&#8217;ve used the term &#8220;offensive revenge&#8221; often, and that&#8217;s what this was all about. It was 11 years after our divorce, when Julie discovered I knew way more than she thought I did.  </p>
<p>In less than a week, Julie had my world turned upside down — a pathological liar with ability to manipulate the Law to be on her side.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to believe that if you need to go to court, being a sociopath may play in your favor.  </p>
<p>&#8230; <i>the story truly begins when this continues</i> &#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="#003366">All names have been changed to protect my innocent ass.</font><br />
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<h6>Multi-Tasking: The Psychiatrist as a Disciple.</h6>
<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">W</font>hen I first met Dr Esbe in 2006, I was immediately taken by his charisma.  He seemed like someone who wasn&#8217;t a psychiatrist — easy going, charming, with a quick and easy-smile; so as far as shrinks go, he seemed relatively normal.</p>
<p>As a comparison, I&#8217;ve seen two other shrinks in my life — one would easily fit in the ADHD&#185; category, while the other would probably feel at home in the OCD&#178; group. But Dr Esbe seemed more like the LDA&#179; type to me.</p>
<p>Additionally, since I have no medical insurance, Dr Esbe agreed to take me on pro-bono. Because of that, I wanted to give something in return.  Something of value.  I knew it would make me feel much better about it, since I was not used to getting stuff for nothing.  My botched surgery of a few years ealier has made me see life from vantage points I never imagined.  <span id="more-4742"></span></p>
<p>Since I noticed he did not have a Web site, I offered to develop one for him.  When I presented the idea, I told him that I&#8217;d give him a state-of-the-art site — a real showcase. He smiled and said it was something he had considered, though never got much further than that.</p>
<p>Dr Esbe said that his &#8220;office manager&#8221; would be responsible to oversee the project, so he&#8217;d discuss it with her.  I suggested that he give his office manager the link to my Web site, so she&#8217;d be able to see the quality of my work. </p>
<p>Within a couple weeks, Dr Esbe told me that his office manager did have a chance to review my work, and said she felt confident in my abilities.  He set up a meeting for me to meet her.    </p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#777777">[1] Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder<br />
[2] Obsessive Compulsive Disorder<br />
[3] Landscape Design Architect</font></p></blockquote>
<h6>The Mystery Office Manager.</h6>
<p>After our quick discussion, I realized I still only knew Dr Esbe&#8217;s office manager as &#8220;office manager&#8221; — I had not gotten her name, yet.  But since he only refers to her only as &#8220;office manager&#8221; I didn&#8217;t see it as a problem.</p>
<p>At our first meeting, I met Kay, the office manager. We decided on a domain name, and split-up some tasks.  Primarily, Kay would get some of my tasks organized for me, such as a time to photograph all the staff, and obtain a bio from each professional staff member.  </p>
<p>I recall I mentioned that I promised Dr Esbe a state-of-the-art site, and Kay&#8217;s response was one of surprise, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;No, we don&#8217;t want that!&nbsp; Our patients are not computer experts.&nbsp; We want them to use it and not make it complicated.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p>That one response drew a fairly clear picture as to her level of understanding, and then she confirmed it, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Personally, I really don&#8217;t use the Web much anyway — I find it confusing.  I don&#8217;t know what people see in it.&#8221;</em></font>  </p>
<p>For someone who admitted not knowing how to use the Web, nor even liking it, I was taken by how Kay wanted to control the meeting.  When I would bring up issues of things I needed to know, I would sense the sigh of frustration, which was usually followed by,<font color="#0033ff"><em> &#8220;Is that something we need to discuss now?&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  I learned in fairly short order that responding with<font color="#993333"><em> &#8220;Yes&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; was the incorrect answer.</p>
<p>When I asked about email forms, I got another clear answer, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;No! Are you kidding?!&nbsp;  Why would we want to add email?!&nbsp;  We already answer the phones and read faxes — adding email would only have us wasting even more time.&#8221;</em></font>  </p>
<p>Kay&#8217;s logic (and don&#8217;t try to change it) was that adding email to the phone and fax would increase communication from patients by 50%.  She preferred having one of her staff answer the phone and write down a message.  Frankly, that logic left me nothing to respond with.</p>
<p>Kay was so adamant about not using email, that she included it in the FAQ section on the site.  These are Kay&#8217;s own words of reason, even though they don&#8217;t really answer the question.  To me, Kay&#8217;s answer is a perfect, though unintentional example of: <em>If you can&#8217;t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull shit.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://phuqued.org/imgs2/faq-email.png"><img src="http://phuqued.org/imgs2/faq-email-th.png" align="right"></a>Months later, I came to the conclusion that this was but another example of Kay&#8217;s need for control.  It was confirmed during our first meeting that Kay supervises the administrative staff. Her staff are the ones who answer the phones and pick-up the faxes.  Going with email, sent direct to the professionals, would eliminate her control of incoming dialog. Currently, she can view and read everything coming in.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">As the project progressed, the picture became clear. Kay was essentially useless, and more often than not, was  just an obstacle to work around.  Eventually she sabotaged the entire initiative because she embarrassed herself with a ridiculous demand.  Kay did none of her assigned tasks, which were few.  After four years, she <u>never</u> organized the staff for photos, nor did she ever obtain their bios.</font></p>
<h6>Suspicious Secrecy.</h6>
<p>As we wrapped-up our first meeting, I asked Kay for a business card, to which she said she had none.  Even her emails listed her first name only with her email address.  It only added to my suspicion, since Kay began to sound as if she owned the company &#8230; and she spoke down to me.  </p>
<p>At my next appointment with Dr Esbe, while we were casually talking, I simply asked, <font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;By the way, does <b>Kay</b> also go by: <b><u>Mrs</u> Esbe?&#8221;</b> </em></font> </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Yes,&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; he replied proudly. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d been set-up.  Why did they both keep the truth from me?</p>
<p>Deliberately, neither of them told me that the &#8220;office manager&#8221; was also the doctor&#8217;s wife.  My instincts told me that my &#8220;patient-doctor&#8221; relationship had just been compromised.  And right after admitting they were married, Dr Esbe went on to tell me how lucky he was &#8230; he obviously adored her. I knew there would be no way that I would ever be able to convince him of anything, if Kay disagreed.  </p>
<p>I also accepted that I would no longer be able to discuss the Web initiative with Dr Esbe.  I was already very disappointed, but felt I was in too deep to withdraw.</p>
<h6>TEAMWORK: Kay Sets Obstacles. I Work Around Them.</h6>
<p>The situation went downhill from the beginning.  Kay was a control-freak, and would lose her temper easily.  I sensed that she herself, could do very little, so instead she micromanaged her staff, and she wanted to micromanage me — doing something that she had admitted to having no knowledge of, nor interest in.  But that did not matter to Kay, as it was what she did.  Kay soon disliked me as I was not able to let her tell me the wrong things to do.  Any work I put out is a reflection of me, and since I promised Dr Esbe a state-of-the-art site, I knew what had to be done.  Kay was still learning the basics of email.</p>
<p>Most of our communication was via email — Kay&#8217;s choice — and something I found ironic due to her stated position, yet she was apparently the only one in the office with email. More control?  She struggled with it, none the less.  She would be very demanding about stuff she knew nothing of, even though I would be very patient with her and explain everything more than once.  I don&#8217;t believe she read much what I wrote to her.</p>
<p>Whenever Kay wrote to me, she would set her caps-lock key, and then compose an email.  After some time, I carefully explained to her that based on the Web&#8217;s own netiquette, using all caps is considered rude, as if you are yelling at someone.  </p>
<p>She obviously took that into consideration, since as she continued using ALL CAPS, Kay began <b>BOLDING</b> many of the words.  I took that to mean she was yelling at me with a bullhorn. Her emails virtually never included a salutation or a cordial close, either. More often than not, Kay&#8217;s emails would not be filed under the professionally polite category. The nasty and rude groups maintained a steady growth.</p>
<p>Only about 4-5 months passed before I sensed that Dr Esbe&#8217;s own attitude with me had begun to slide &#8230; I knew I was being undermined, but there was nothing I could do about it.  Dr Esbe even told me they discussed the Web project at home, [translation] Kay talked about <u>me</u> at their home, which was one of my earliest concerns about maintaining that sacred doctor/patient relationship. Based on Kay&#8217;s unique way of addressing me, I can only imagine how she would speak of me when I wasn&#8217;t around.</p>
<h6>Excellent! Did you study drama?</h6>
<p>An unexpected and very telling, eye-opening event took place about 6-8 months into the project.  At about 10:00 one morning, I received one of Kay&#8217;s choice emails.  She was at her nasty best and blasting me for something.  Her email didn&#8217;t even deserve a reply, nor did it get one. I felt it was all about her making sure I didn&#8217;t forget who was boss. </p>
<p>A couple hours later, I swung by Dr Esbe&#8217;s office to pick up a script.  The patient reception area was empty, but the sliding glass partition was open to the office part.  As I walked up, I saw both women in the reception office on the phone, so I slowly leaned forward into the open glass.  </p>
<p>I quickly changed directions and backed out when I saw that Dr Esbe was standing in the reception office doorway, to the far left.  I doubt that he saw me.  At that point, I just stood at the glass and waited. </p>
<p>There was a fourth person in that room who I had not seen, since she was squatting at a filing cabinet on the far right.  I saw her the same moment she saw me, and that was when Kay stood straight up — I could tell that she was just as startled seeing me as I was seeing her. Remember, <h>only about two hours had passed since I received that extremely rude email from Kay.&nbsp; <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;But in a few seconds, everything would change.</h><em><br />
<h6><font color="#0033ff"> <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> &nbsp;&#8221;Oh!&nbsp; Hi Larry!&nbsp; How ya doing?!&#8221; &nbsp; <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </em></h6>
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<p><h>In an instant, I was speechless. In front of Dr Esbe, Kay had just greeted me as if we were long-time, best friends &#8230; instead of what she did every other time: <em>look away and ignore me.</em>&nbsp;  Kay would never acknowledge me.  The only difference this time was that Dr Esbe was in the room, too. </h>  </p>
<p><h>I had just seen Kay&#8217;s persona.</h> She spewed charm, innocence, and sweetness. Without a doubt, I knew what it meant immediately, even without that red flag whipping me in the face.</p>
<p>I had truly been fortunate enough to see Dr Esbe in the room, so I knew <u>exactly</u> who the performance was for &#8230; and why.  It was truly an academy-award-winning delivery at its finest.&nbsp;   She was a natural.&nbsp;  I was phuqued.</p>
<p>I stood there frozen in shock as they both walked out of the room. I just knew as they disappeared, that Kay must have taken advantage of the situation further, and said something like, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Did you see that?  He couldn&#8217;t be bothered to even say &#8216;hi&#8217; back to me.&#8221; </em></font> </p>
<p>Of course, Dr Esbe was unaware of the supremely-nasty email she had sent to me that morning, or frankly, was unaware that she was doing it on a regular basis.  It must have looked odd to him to see my mouth open and nothing coming out. </p>
<p>That firmly planted, in my mind, what I was truly dealing with. Her characteristics were all adding-up and pointing in one very clear, and frightening direction.</p>
<h6>Qualified to do the job.</h6>
<p>Why do people hire experts and then tell them how to do their job?</p>
<p>I built their site with WordPress as its core to create a dynamic environment, allowing the office staff to be involved with adding posts.  I explained the many features and capabilities, and I even set-up an opt-in list so those interested would immediately be updated. </p>
<p>I received no objection from Kay while developing the site. But for some reason, that all changed seemingly overnight — shortly after I pushed the site live.  Kay began to have problems with it that I really could not make sense of.  More than once, I asked Dr Esbe if the three of us could meet regarding their new site. Each time, he stated categorically: <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;No.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  No reason, just, &#8220;No.&#8221;  No reason &#8220;given&#8221; that is.  It seemed obvious to me that was a directive from Kay.  How could she ever expect to keep her story straight if I were sitting there, shooting holes through it.  </p>
<p>That began an almost a year-long effort on my part to convince Kay of why, and why, and why, we needed to use the site as designed. She never did back down, though, as I came to believe doing so would mean just one thing: she&#8217;d have to &#8220;back down&#8221;&#8230; hence, lose face.  Of course, she was never able to provide a valid reason, though, nor did I believe she felt she needed to.</p>
<p>After a year of attempting to change her mind, Dr Esbe made a rare Web mandate, stating to me, using Kay&#8217;s <u>exact</u> words (somewhat elementary in nature) that they wanted me to change it.  I knew he had no idea what he was asking. But this seemed to confirm who wore the pants. He did what she said, without even asking me for an opinion.  </p>
<p>As mentioned earlier, he had previously admitted to discussing the Web project with Kay at home, yet he refused to permit the three of us to meet regarding Web initiative, or even just he and I. I would have preferred all three, but I tried the &#8220;two&#8221; just as an option.  That made another clear statement to me, how important it was to Kay to keep me from sharing my expertise with the doctor.</p>
<h6>Time to Replace the Porsche engine with the old VW.</h6>
<p>Within a month, I had removed WordPress from the site, and rebuilt it statically, while maintaining the exact same look. Being dynamic, the site had a log-in area, i.e., a place to enter a username and password.  But being  static, a log-in area was no longer needed, nor did one exist.</p>
<p>In less than a week after I completed the transition to static, I received an email from Kay telling me she couldn&#8217;t find the log-in area. [I wonder what my face looked like when I read that?]  I replied with a long, detailed, yet cordial email explaining that I had completed making the requested changes, and how we&#8217;d be doing things going forward.  I closed by asking her to make a copy of my email for Dr Esbe, since it was very informative.</p>
<p>No more than 30 minutes later, I received another email from Kay, and to paraphrase, she said,<font color="#0033ff"><em> &#8220;&#8230; that&#8217;s fine, but <u>where</u> do I log-in?!&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p>I felt that after a year of trying to get her to understand what she was telling me to do, and then completely missing the message written in my previous email, I had earned the right to compose another email with more candor, and somewhat direct.  I asked why they wanted to make sure I had the credentials to create a Web site for them when they were not going to listen to me anyway. And how we literally just wasted a year of no progress, as I wanted to continue development on the initiative, but instead, was justifying my stance against something that I now realize had no logic whatsoever.  Even though Kay knew <u>nothing</u> about Web technology, she needed to have complete control of the project; hence, she would not back down. </p>
<p>Although I did not include this, I had never, in my life, worked with someone so arrogant, so righteous, as to stick to a completely invalid argument, just because of her grandiose sense of self-worth. It was difficult to know what happened after that, as most communication virtually stopped. </p>
<h6>OK, Now What?</h6>
<p>After the realization that Kay had no idea what she was asking for, including no idea how it would change the entire site, she vanished — at least to me. Virtually all communication stopped coming from her.  That was about February, 2009.  Virtually nothing happened with the site for the next 7-8 months, nor did I see Dr Esbe during that time.  So I was a bit in that limbo area, and simply waiting (or was that purgatory?).</p>
<p>In August, 2009, I called in for something, and was speaking with Ann, who I had determined was the most professional woman working the front. And that&#8217;s when it hit me, <font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;Hey Ann, would you be at all interested in helping me work on the Web?&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;I thought Kay was doing that,&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; she replied.</p>
<p><font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;Well, she always has,&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; I said, <font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;but she seems extremely busy, and unable to devote the time needed.  I can easily teach you what you&#8217;d need to do — I think you might even enjoy it.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;That&#8217;s what I was thinking, too.  I&#8217;d like to learn more about it.  I would need to ask Kay for permission.  How about I call you after I get with her?&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;That would be just great, Ann, thanks.  I&#8217;ll look forward to hearing from you.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  Although I couldn&#8217;t say anything about Kay, since she was Ann&#8217;s boss, I felt as if that would be the deal killer.</p>
<p>I expected to hear back from Ann that week, but almost two weeks had passed without hearing a thing.  I needed to run by Dr Esbe&#8217;s office, and by luck, Ann was at the window just finishing with someone.  We both greeted each other, and I mentioned I had a script to pick up.  </p>
<p>Something wasn&#8217;t right, though.&nbsp; Ann was looking for the script right in front of me, but she never made eye-contact.  She also wasn&#8217;t as cordial when she said <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Hi.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; Very unlike Ann.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">So, while she was still looking down, going through the file, I spoke up and said,<font color="#993333"><em> <h>&#8220;Ann, did you ever get a chance to ask Kay about the Web?&#8221;</h></em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><h>Never looking up, she said, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Well yea, I asked her the afternoon you and I spoke, and Kay said she&#8217;d get back to me.  Two days later, she told me about how she contacted you, and how you guys exchanged emails back-and-forth, and how you take so long writing your long emails, and eventually <u>you</u> said you really didn&#8217;t need my help &#8230; so I didn&#8217;t see any reason to get back in touch with you.&#8221; </em></font></h></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><h>Ann still had not looked up. But not hearing anything come from me after a few seconds, she took a quick glance and saw my wide-open eyes, with my head slowly moving from side-to-side.&nbsp; All I was able to do was whisper, <font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;Ann, I&#8217;ve had <u>no</u> communication with Kay since February.&#8221;</h></em></font>&nbsp; [it was then mid-August]  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><h>Now Ann was the one with the big eyes</h>. </p>
<p>She appeared to be looking straight through me.  It made me think she was going back and reliving the event again. And again.  I saw the shock in her face, and how she became speechless &#8230; except for the one expressive <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Shit!&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; that found its way out.</p>
<p>There was nothing else we could do right there.  We were both truly stunned. Ann made her way slowly back to her desk.  I left with my script.</p>
<p>Less than a month later, when I was again in the office, Ann approached me and said, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;I need to tell you something.  I turned in my resignation &#8230; I&#8217;ll be leaving in three weeks.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;If you hear it from Kay, she&#8217;s been telling everyone that I&#8217;m retiring.  She completely made that up, as I never said such a thing, nor am I.  It wouldn&#8217;t take <u>you</u> much to figure out why I&#8217;m quitting. There&#8217;s only one way to do things around here, and that&#8217;s Kay&#8217;s way &#8230; but now, I&#8217;m over it.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p>I was truly sorry to see Ann go, but she obviously had integrity to maintain &#8230; something the others probably didn&#8217;t understand.  </p>
<p>Can anything make sense on this project?  Just a couple weeks earlier, Kay fabricated a finely-detailed lie to make me look bad to Ann, as well as her entire staff. I never did find out if Kay was aware that her deception had back-fired. And apparently all because she lost face. </p>
<p>With what had happened with the fabricated story to Ann, and who knows what else Kay had been spreading, we went from building a Web site, to Kay ceasing communication, and a few other events that told me Kay had targeted me for one purpose — for Dr Esbe to stop treating me so she would no longer need to deal with me, nor even see me.  The writing was on the wall, especially knowing the extent taken with Ann. <font color="#993333"><br />
<h6>&nbsp; &nbsp; Preparing for the End</font></h6>
<h6>Creating my Report — An Exercise in Futility.</h6>
<p>It was time for me to do something.  I needed to get all my notes together, and share the events with Dr Esbe that would be the easiest to substantiate.  I knew that Kay had been undermining me with him for years, but I also knew that he was completely loyal to Kay.  But what else could I do?  </p>
<p>Kay was creating detailed, fabricated lies and spreading them to others.  And I had proof. The question I had yet to test was if even solid evidence would have any chance against Kay&#8217;s word.</p>
<p>In September 2009, I set up a phone call with Dr Esbe, and we spoke for almost an hour.  Strike that: <b>I</b> spoke for almost an hour.  He barely said a thing, and neither confirmed nor denied what I told him.  But everything I told him was easily substantiated, and I said it very carefully, and strictly factual &#8230; meaning I did not speculate, nor use words such as:&nbsp; &#8220;sociopath&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;personality disorder&#8221; &#8230; etc.&nbsp; Being a shrink, it would have been quite easy for him to identify the characteristics based on the evidence I presented.</p>
<p>At the end of the call, and after hearing the factual, and provable stories of deception, he decided the best thing to do was to stop working on their Web site entirely.  Once again, his response made no sense.  Considering the problem was with Kay, I asked him if I could continue work with someone else on the Web site.  I got a quick, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;No.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<h6>Kay&#8217;s Update.</h6>
<p>Due to the timing of certain events, and primarily this phone call, I later concluded that he must have shared what I told him with Kay, as to what I had witnessed, even though I figured he would have respected medical confidentiality laws.  But beginning within the next 30-45 days, virtually every dealing I had, indirectly even, with the administrative staff — coincidently Kay&#8217;s staff — had a problem of some sort. Each incident was based on what certainly seemed like a blatant lie from Kay&#8217;s staff, simply passing the blame elsewhere.  </p>
<p>Delayed approvals, no response to the pharmacy, and culminating with the biggest one — not ordering my crucial, daily medication. That medication, like so many other meds today, can cause dangerous withdrawals if they are stopped abruptly, without a long tapering-off period.  Medication that cost about $500 per month, retail.</p>
<h6>My Medical Service Begins to be Purposely Delayed.</h6>
<p>There&#8217;s a script I need refilled each month, one that I call into my pharmacist, their system automatically sends a fax to Dr Esbe for approval, and Dr Esbe&#8217;s office shoots back the approval via fax.  It&#8217;s a monthly thing and usually is a day turn-around.</p>
<p>In November, I went through the same procedure to request the refill, but when I showed up three days later to pick up the meds, I was told it wasn&#8217;t approved.  <font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry &#8230; what do you mean? That really makes no sense.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p>The pharmacist said they just say that when a doctor does not send back the approval.  He offered to send it again, and I said,<font color="#993333"><em> &#8220;Please.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  That time it got approved, but I had been out a few days.</p>
<p>December rolls along and time to fill the same med.  Same thing happens. But this time the pharmacy needed to resend it twice.  It took three requests before it got approved.</p>
<p>When it happened again in January, the pharmacist suggested I contact Dr Esbe to find out why the ongoing delays.  So, I called Dr Esbe&#8217;s office, and spoke to Em, one of the women in the front office.  I told her I had a situation that I would need to talk to Dr Esbe about, and wanted a suggestion on the best way to approach him.</p>
<p>When I told her what it was about, she quickly stopped me and said I didn&#8217;t need to speak with him as that was her responsibility.  I sensed quick anxiety — like borderline getting busted.  I was very surprised by her reaction, as she immediately implied the problem was at the pharmacy.  The pharmacy is part of a large grocery chain, and when I spoke with the pharmacy manager, he confirmed the problem was isolated to me and them, and not widespread. </p>
<p>I told Em that I really felt in the middle, as two people were telling me two opposite stories. She replied by saying, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t know what their problem is.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; If I were a betting man, though, I would place my bet on the pharmacy as the one <u>not</u> screwing up.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#003366">It was an odd piece of the puzzle for quite a while, and fit no where.  But as I was working on another piece, I found its place.  Kay has control over the administrative staff &#8230; they&#8217;re her loyal subjects.  Dr Esbe told me years ago that he didn&#8217;t want to be bothered with it.  It&#8217;s Kay&#8217;s domain to use as she maliciously desires.  </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><font color="#003366"> Kay is the only one to report to Dr Esbe.  If Kay, did indeed, instruct Em to delay the authorizations, Em would know that it was Kay&#8217;s deal, and not Dr Esbe&#8217;s.  And if I got through to Dr Esbe and told him what had been occurring, it may have easily stirred up unpleasantness for her on two fronts.</font></p>
<h6>My Three-Month Meds.</h6>
<p>Dr Esbe&#8217;s staff orders a three-month supply of meds for me which I get at a deal. All I need to do is inform my contact at his office with enough lead time (3-4 weeks) so the new supply comes in before I run out.  My contact is Em, the same woman who is responsible for my pharmacy refill approvals. </p>
<p>During the last week of February, I called in and left a message for Em.  I left two requests on her voicemail: one for the 3-month med refill and the other for a script.  Two days later, I called and was told the script was ready.  Hence, message received with both requests.</p>
<p>In mid-March, for the first time ever, I had run out of my meds and had not received my call from Em that my resupply had arrived.  I called on the morning of the 17th and spoke to another woman who told me Em was out sick. I asked her if someone could check on the order for me, whether it had arrived, or when it would arrive.  I made that call before noon.</p>
<p>At 16:45 (just 15 minutes before they close), another woman in the office, Shane, called to tell me that they had not arrived, and then gave me the phone number of the pharmaceutical company.  I asked why she was giving it to me, and she made a comment such as if I called them, <u>too</u>, it might expedite the order. It was now about 16:50.</p>
<p>I called the pharmaceutical company, and to summarize, I was informed there was never an order placed during February for me, but on top of that, I was told that no one from Dr Esbe&#8217;s office had contacted them since my previous order, 3-4 months earlier.  If you recall, I was told, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;&#8230; if you call them, <u>TOO</u> &#8230;&#8221;</em></font> indicating that I wasn&#8217;t the first to call.  I was lied to.  </p>
<p>The rep I spoke with said if Dr Esbe&#8217;s staff can fax the order right back, he&#8217;d rush it through for me.  Frankly, he was quite surprised that I was calling, since he said there was nothing I could do, and implied that I was doing their job.</p>
<p>It was now about 16:56.  I had about four minutes until closing.  I dialed Dr Esbe&#8217;s office, got voice mail, hung up; dialed, got voice mail, hung up; dialed, got voice mail, hung up &#8230; and did it until it was after closing.  For my last call, I left a long, detailed message directly for Shane, the woman who had told me to call the pharmaceutical company. At the end, I left my phone number and asked to be called.</p>
<h6>Still no word by the next afternoon.</h6>
<p>By 14:00 (2pm) the following day, I still had not heard from Shane.  I wanted to believe that she just forgot to call me, but took care of everything else.  But my instincts wouldn&#8217;t leave me alone &#8230; I called just to be sure. Shane answered, and I asked her if she had received my message.  Click to listen &#8230;</p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em><b>&#8220;&#8230; I did not &#8230; [Hannah] took off the messages &#8230; so she did.&#8221;</b></em></font>  </p>
<p><strong>Wrong.</strong>&nbsp;  According to Dr Esbe on a subsequent call, office policy states that when someone gets a message, they are notified to come listen to it.  Therefore, consider her answer: if she had <u>not</u> been notified, she likely would have been surprised to hear she had missed a message.</p>
<p>Yet there&#8217;s not even a hint of surprise in her voice, though there is a change, such as searching for an alibi.  Since she did nothing that I relayed, or requested in the message, she apparently could not be honest with her answer.  Another, blatant lie.  And besides, she has fairly bad grammar: <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;&#8230; this is her.&#8221;</em></font> [sic]</p>
<p>So after Shane stated she did not get my message, I immediately dove into overdrive to give her the message she claimed she never got.  But if she never got the message, why did she not want to hear it?  She continually cut me off, and interrupted me to say that she would give a message to Em when she returned the following week. </p>
<p>The following audio is a series of clips from the same phone call with Shane.  In the very first sub-clip you&#8217;ll hear Shane say,<font color="#0033ff"><em> &#8220;&#8230; alright I&#8217;ll leave Em <u>that</u> message and she can call on Monday &#8230;&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; —  except there was no message.  I had only begun telling her what I left on the voice mail for her, the VM she claimed she never got. But as soon I began to tell her what was on the message, she immediately started jumping-in attempting to end the call.</p>
<p>The length of this entire clip is about 1:40, though the last sub-clip you&#8217;ll hear was from about 20 minutes into the call, and I still had not been able to get through the 3-4 minute message that I had left on voice mail. </p>
<p>Shane continued to interrupt, and I continued asking her to stop.  She finally replied with, <font color="#0033ff"><em><b>&#8220;No, I won&#8217;t.&#8221;</b></em></font>&nbsp;  If interrupting is considered rude, what would that be considered?  I can&#8217;t imagine they would talk to just any patient like that.  Shane told me at least three times that she was leaving messages for Dr Esbe to call, and for Em to call.  Neither ever did.  </p>
<h6>Actually, there was someone there who could help.</h6>
<p>After telling me multiple times that only Em could help me, and Em would be back the following week, Shane once again said, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Hold please&#8221;</em></font> while I was in mid-sentence. When I was taken off hold, I was greeted by another voice. Dr Esbe&#8217;s nurse, apparently overhearing Shane, must have assumed (or was told) I was being a problem, so she took the call.  When I heard her voice and introduction, my first two words were,<font color="#993333"><em> &#8220;Thank you!&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p>Within minutes, the nurse fully understood the gravity of what I had been attempting to get across to Shane.  In less than half the time I wasted on the phone with Shane, the nurse had resolved everything. At least with the administrative staff, it only continued to support my assertion that my character had been pretty well trashed by Kay, and worse.  <font color="#003366"><br />
<h6>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Why is everyone so lame?</font></h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">Let&#8217;s not forget <strong>Kay</strong>, a.k.a. <strong>Mrs Esbe</strong>.  </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">To clarify, it is <u>not</u> &#8220;everyone&#8221; but only those who work for Kay — the administration staff.  As a psychiatrist, Dr Esbe told me years ago that he does not like to deal with the administrative issues, as he just wants to be a shrink.  So Kay has built her domain of manipulation and control, and only she reports to him.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">Ann quit as soon as she saw the depth of the Kay&#8217;s deceptions. It was my discussion with Ann that opened both of our eyes. I knew Kay was trashing me to her husband, but it was Ann who allowed me to see the much larger picture. Kay not only controls and manipulates her staff, but her husband as well.  Kay definitely wears the pants in the family, and at the office &#8230; and I&#8217;d bet Dr Esbe helps her pick them out. He&#8217;s turned control to her.</font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">Kay lives for control.  I certainly was not supposed to question her when we began the Web initiative.  She micromanages the office staff.  If they want to stay in her good graces, it would be extremely wise for them to go along exactly with what she says. Why is Kay even at the office with two kids at home? </font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">I&#8217;ve concluded: control and jealousy.  Kay is a fairly attractive woman in her late 30s, or early 40s.  Everyone she&#8217;s hired is well below her level of attractiveness &#8230; to the point of some being grossly obese (about 20-30% of the staff).  Hence, when it comes to job security and staying in Kay&#8217;s good graces, I&#8217;m easily disposable.</font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><font color="#003366">Being such a controlling micromanager, no one did anything without Kay&#8217;s approval.  <em>What this made me realize was that Shane, and the others, were treating me exactly as instructed. </em></font></p>
<p>Kay would not have had the ability to control the professionals, though she probably tried.</p>
<h6>Medical Ethics: When is the Line Considered Crossed?</h6>
<p>When Em got back the following week, she never called.  She had not done her job, she had not ordered my meds, and she was not going to return my calls. Neither did Dr Esbe. </p>
<p>A friend of mine, Alicia, who lives near Dr Esbe&#8217;s offices, often swings by and picks up those scripts for me.  It&#8217;s very kind of her, since it&#8217;s way out-of-the-way for me.  That week, when Alicia picked up my script, she brought back a little bonus.</p>
<p>It was Em who handed her my script, but when Alicia brought the script to me, she said, <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Oh, by the way, Em said you need to give her sufficient lead time to get your refills, like everyone else does.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#993333"><em>&#8220;Alicia, did Em leave you with the distinct impression that I don&#8217;t do that?&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Yea &#8230; why, do you?&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p><font color="#993333"> <em>&#8220;Always.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  What Em pulled would normally be called a CYA (cover your ass). </p>
<p>Considering who it came from, though, and the purpose was to maliciously pass deceptive blame onto me — covering something she failed to handle — I&#8217;d say it was clearly character assassination.  Especially since Alicia didn&#8217;t ask.</p>
<p>But Em still had another task to complete.  My three-month med supply had not yet arrived, which meant I was still waiting for Em&#8217;s call to notify me when I can pick them up. Apparently, she had no intention of doing that, either.</p>
<p>March finished-up and rolled into April. Still no call.  Dr Esbe&#8217;s office is officially closed on Fridays, though unofficially it&#8217;s always open Fridays between 09:00 to 12:00.  None of the regular staff is there on Fridays, just the very sweet Friday lady, Nix.</p>
<p>At just before noon on Friday, April 9, I was in the area of Dr Esbe&#8217;s office and decided to check and see if my meds had arrived.  Nix greeted me by name, and handed my meds to me.  </p>
<p>Em had left the UPS tracking information on the package, so with nothing else as interesting to do on this Friday when I got home, I logged into UPS.com, only to discover that my meds had been delivered to Dr Esbe&#8217;s office the previous week.  My service had come to an obviously malicious stop.</p>
<h6>Now what?</h6>
<p>It seems fairly clear to me that, since last year, my service has been deliberately and continuously delayed or ignored anytime it involved the administrative staff — Kay&#8217;s domain.  Kay has a plan in the works for me, with her staff deeply involved, and generally speaking, covering-it up does not seem to be a priority. </p>
<p>A year ago, I shared all my substantiated proof with Dr Esbe, and now seeing where he fits in, he likely shared it all with her.  From that discussion, Kay was made aware that I know much more about her than she&#8217;s comfortable with.  I was a liability to Kay.</p>
<p>One likely scenario is a typical sociopath characteristic —  to place blame on the victim for all the malicious deeds done to them.  Considering that they made me run out of meds by simply not ordering them, and then Em told Alicia that I messed up, when it was actually Em who deliberately did not place the order.  Or, by not sending back the refill authorizations to the pharmacy on the first request, so the pharmacy was forced to make additional requests, and thereby making me wait for my refills.</p>
<p>So what is going to be their next move.  A quick look at my calendar seemed to answer that: in about three weeks, I had a scheduled appointment with Dr Esbe — 10:00, Wednesday, May 5.  The strategy that Kay had been working on was probably intended to culminate at my appointment.  </p>
<p>I needed to have all my evidence nicely organized, even though I knew it would have <u><b>no</b></u> effect on the outcome &#8230; that being that the doctor would resign from treating me. Truly, I wanted to hear how he&#8217;d work around the clear evidence I would present, considering he had no reason based on anything I had done.  </p>
<p>What is interesting to me is he did not need a reason to stop providing his services to me, since his services were pro-bono.  All he had to say was something based on the pro-bono aspect, such as having too many patients, etc.  So, why didn&#8217;t he just do that, instead of what he did?<br />
&nbsp;</p>
<h6>My appointment with Dr Esbe</h6>
<p><strong>May 5, 2010</strong>&nbsp; Via phone. At the very beginning, I asked the following two questions so I wouldn&#8217;t forget them, and before Dr Esbe was made aware I recorded conversations with his staff &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>1</strong>.&nbsp;  I asked Dr Esbe about messages I left for him requesting that he call me &#8230; did he receive them? (since he never called me).  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Let me see &#8230;&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; he stated slowly, as if looking it up, or thinking back &#8230; then eventually said: <font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8221; No.&#8221; </em></font>&nbsp;  It seemed odd that he began with &#8220;let me see&#8221; essentially saying that just because he received them, didn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;d necessarily call. Later, he heard on the recording, more than once, that Shane stated she would leave him messages for me.  Which one lied?</p>
<p><strong>2</strong>.&nbsp; Then I asked Dr Esbe about his office procedure in handling after-hours voice messages, since there is only one voice mail box. Specifically, when a message is left for someone by name, how would that person get their message?  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;[The front office staff] would play the message for the person it was left for.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp;  Shortly after he stated this, he heard the recording of Shane denying that she got her message.<br />
&nbsp; </p>
<h6>I covered the details of the following topics (as above).</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • <strong>I reminded him of the call he and I had Aug-Sep 2009,</strong> in which I described, for the <u>first</u> time to him, the actions and<strong> events primarily surrounding Kay &#8230; all of which I had substantiated evidence of — solid proof</strong>.  I did not raise any issues that would be based on my word alone.  I included the incident when Kay stood up and greeted me with persona-perfection after the extremely rude email &#8230; an event he witnessed.  I shared in detail the events surrounding Ann, and how she was told a detailed fabricated lie about me, which also was intended to trash my character.  <strong>Considering medical confidentiality laws, I expected the discussion to go no further.  I believe, based on timing alone, he shared it all with Kay.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • Beginning in October or November (just 30-60 days after my discussion with Dr Esbe),<strong> delays of my script re-fills began.</strong>  The pharmacy would have to submit the re-fill request multiple times before they received the approval.  I would be without my meds for a period of time while waiting. This continued through January, in which time I called the office and Em lied blaming it on the pharmacy.&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • I discussed <strong>the message I left with two requests</strong> (late February, a script and my 3-month meds) — <strong>one request was filled, and one was ignored.</strong>&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • On March 17, <strong>Shane instructed me to call the pharmaceutical company to check on my order</strong>, too, strongly implying that the office already had. When I called, I discovered that no one from the office had contacted pharmaceutical company, nor did they place my order from February, the message I left with the script that was ready within a day.  <strong>Em apparently deliberately did not place that order, and then lied about it.</strong>&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • I discussed (in detail, along with playing the recordings above) the call I had with <strong>Shane</strong> (March 18) regarding the pharmaceutical company call, <strong>providing proof of her blatant rudeness and her unwillingness to offer help.</strong>&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • I discussed how <strong>I received no return phone calls</strong> the week of March 22 (either by Dr Esbe or Em).&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • I discussed how <strong>Em lied to Alicia about the three-month order</strong> not being placed — <strong>she stated it was my failure, not hers. Another lie.</strong>&nbsp; <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"> • I discussed how <strong>I picked-up my meds on April 9, only to discover they had been delivered the previous week</strong>, and Em never called as she always does.&nbsp;  <font color="red"><b>[Kay's staff responsibility failure]</b></font><br />
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<h6>Dr Esbe Responds to the Undeniable Evidence Presented</h6>
<p>After hearing the deception and rudeness of his staff, as well as exposing the ongoing deliberate lack and delay of service, Dr Esbe completely ignored it all. </p>
<p>Never did Dr Esbe acknowledge his staff&#8217;s ongoing deceptions, deliberate lack of service, or lack of medical ethics, even though he was just presented with undeniable evidence, including recordings of his staff — more recordings than were included in this post. </p>
<p>Instead, he was unhappy that I recorded the discussions, though he ignored the fact that those recordings proved how unprofessional his staff had continually treated me. Hence, I translate that to be he was unhappy that I created and presented undeniable proof of what really occurred — a.k.a., the truth.  </p>
<h6>Loyalty vs Honesty</h6>
<p>Blind loyalty is what&#8217;s important to a sociopath (i.e., those &#8216;loyal&#8217; people who will do anything requested of them without question) &#8230; honesty matters not.</p>
<p><font color="#red">Dr Esbe argued that the entire problem was with <b><em><u>my</u> <u>completely</u> <u>substantiated</u> <u>reporting</u> <u>of</u> <u>the</u> <u>events</u></em></b>,&nbsp; and <b><em><u>not</u> <u>the</u> <u>events</u> <u>themselves</u></b> — ignoring the fact that I had provided undeniable proof. </em></font></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><h><strong>DIALOG KEY:</strong> To help make the following conversation easier to follow</h> &#8230; <strong>my dialog</strong> is indented and black,&nbsp; &#8230; <font color="#0033ff"><em><strong>Dr Esbe&#8217;s</strong> is italicized and blue.</em></font>&nbsp; <h>This is taken directly from a transcript &#8230; edited for length, <u>not</u> for substance.</h></p>
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<h6>Closing Discussion</h6>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><strong>Dr Esbe:</strong> <em>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry for whatever went on that upset you.  I don&#8217;t see how we can help you therapeutically when on every other level you&#8217;re upset with the process.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><strong>Larry:</strong> &#8220;Are you saying that what I&#8217;ve presented here is not credible?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;I&#8217;m <u>not</u> saying that, and that&#8217;s why I apologized to you at the beginning, but each and every appointment you talk about what hasn&#8217;t worked well for you at this practice.&#8221;</em></font> &nbsp; [That's a completely false statement — the first, and only other time was last year's phone call.]</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Well you know why.  And I&#8217;ll be very candid.  I already told you.  I even gave you substantiated evidence — there&#8217;s someone that works in your office that is undermining me. And, she has an incredible amount of pull with the office staff.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Larry, I have to tell you that&#8217;s not true.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;It is true.  She just doesn&#8217;t allow you to see it.  And as a psychiatrist, for you to say because you don&#8217;t see it, it can&#8217;t be true &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em><strong>&#8220;It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t see it</strong>, and that I&#8217;m not aware of what goes on in the office &#8230; I can&#8217;t make this be about every issue you have with the staff.&#8221;</em></font><br />
[that looks suspiciously like an admission]</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Oh no, don&#8217;t get it wrong. I&#8217;m presenting very solid evidence here&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Even the taping of the conversations &#8230; I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s right&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;If I had not recorded them, it would have simply been my word against there&#8217;s — and who would you likely believe?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;I&#8217;m not able to work to figure out your therapeutic needs because of these issues in the office.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;What have you done to resolve the issues in the office?&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;That&#8217;s between me and the office staff.  We cannot continue to treat your therapeutic needs with these other issues.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;So you are allowing Kay to get what she wants.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;This has nothing to do with Kay.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;It does to.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;This has nothing to do with Kay.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;You actually said to me that you can separate this fully between home and office.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;I thought you and I could, but it&#8217;s clear that we can&#8217;t.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Wait a minute, is it because I began talking about Kay that we can&#8217;t?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s because it&#8217;s always about the staff &#8230; I cannot continue to treat your therapeutic needs when we always talk about the staff.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;You&#8217;re copping-out on me.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;This is not about copping-out, this is about me trying to tend to your emotional and therapeutic needs, and we can never get to that point.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;It&#8217;s because of what I keep telling you, but you don&#8217;t want to hear that, and when I asked how you dealt with it and your office staff, you say that&#8217;s between you and them.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Larry, we can&#8217;t keep doing this.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;I know we can&#8217;t!&nbsp; What do you think I&#8217;ve been trying to do?&nbsp;  I&#8217;m trying to open your eyes.&nbsp; You&#8217;re either an enabler or you&#8217;re in denial. Either one.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Well, in either scenario, you&#8217;re clearly not getting your needs fulfilled, either.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Well, why are you letting it continue?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Larry, again, clearly you are not getting your needs met here therapeutically.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Even early on, I asked you if the three of us could get together for a Web meeting, and you refused.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;That&#8217;s right, I said, No.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Because that had nothing to do with what you and I were trying to do here.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;How can you say that?&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;As I told you several appointments ago that our business relationship ended.&#8221;</em></font>&nbsp; [it was actually on last September's phone call he told me to quit working on the site ... <u>never</u> did he say "ended" until this discussion.]</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;You cannot just leave a site online ignored.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;You can shut it down, you can do what you need to. I&#8217;m trying to address your emotional needs, and I&#8217;m not able  to do so.&#8221;</em></font> [The outgoing message on their voice mail system, as of today, refers people to their <u>new</u> Web site for "additional information"]</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;But why can&#8217;t you listen to what I&#8217;m saying &#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Because that has nothing to do with the care I&#8217;m trying to give you.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><b>&#8220;How come I&#8217;ve pointed out your staff&#8217;s deception and lies, that I have substantiated, and you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s <u>my</u> problem that I have with your staff?&#8221;</b>  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em><b>&#8220;Larry, I&#8217;m going to have to cut the appointment short.&#8221;</b></em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Not unless we can continue this sometime soon.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing else I can do.  I cannot treat your needs because of this hurdle you are unable to cross.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Hurdle I can&#8217;t cross?  Where your staff is lying to me, and to other people about me.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Again, I&#8217;m not going to talk about the staff issues.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;It&#8217;s very difficult for me to have a psychiatrist who has someone at his office who&#8217;s undermining me.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s no one at this office who&#8217;s undermining you.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;I have proof of that and gave it to you a year ago.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s no one at this practice who&#8217;s undermining you.&#8221;</em></font></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Are you in denial?  How is it that I gave you substantiation a year ago, yet you&#8217;re telling me that no one is doing it.&#8221;   </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;Larry, there&#8217;s no one undermining you at this practice.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;I gave you proof.&#8221;  </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s no one undermining you at this practice.&#8221;</em></font> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;You&#8217;re in denial.&#8221; </p>
<p><font color="#0033ff"><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing more I can do for you.&#8221;</em></font><br />
&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he actually meant &#8220;will&#8221; and not &#8220;can&#8221; — though we cordially finished the call.</p>
<h6>A Bungled, yet Successfully-Executed Plan.</h6>
<p>As I had suspected, this was all a carefully and successfully-executed plan.  Their replacement Web site was already online.  </p>
<p>Their new URL used the exact same domain name as before, but now ends with <b>.org</b> instead of <b>.com</b> — <em>a big <u>mistake</u> in itself.</em>&nbsp;  Even though not as closely adhered to as intended, a domain ending in <b>.org</b> implies an organization primarily such as a non-profit; while a URL ending with <b>.com</b> implies a commercial company. </p>
<p>Hence, it went from something like: <b>Example.com</b> -to- <b>Example.org</b></p>
<h6>The Big Oversight.</h6>
<p>They probably thought that keeping the same domain name was important, though they failed to understand that most people naturally use <font size="3"><b>.com</b></font> to complete a URL — <em>so most people will still be looking for the old <b>.com</b> site.</em>&nbsp;  A proverbial shot in the foot.  </p>
<p>Their &#8220;new&#8221; site went online already-filled with staff photos (i.e., unprofessional snapshots). The entire design is a huge step backwards: cluttered, very un-classy, low-tech, and completely amateurish.  </p>
<p>Apparently, Kay got what she wanted.</p>
<p>I find it amazing how many people seem to miss the truth of the old adage &#8230;<br />
<em>&#8220;You <u>never</u> get a second chance at a first impression.&#8221;</em></p>
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<font color="#666666">All names have been changed to protect my innocent ass.</font></p>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one man&#8217;s very real story — my nightmare — beginning with my earliest memories, being physically and verbally abused by my alcoholic father, as well as his favorite and first child, my violently hostile, oldest sister, Kathy. Another older sister, Marcia, began her own psychological abuse against me sometime in her mid-to-late teens. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">T</font>his is one man&#8217;s very real story — my nightmare — beginning with my earliest memories, being physically and verbally abused by my alcoholic father, as well as his favorite and first child, my violently <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-kathy-mom.png" rel="devil"><img src="http://phuqued.org/imgs2/quote-th.png" align="right" title="I have such a charming sister."></a>hostile, oldest sister, Kathy.  Another older sister, Marcia, began her own psychological abuse against me sometime in her mid-to-late teens.  </p>
<p>Hers were very calmly delivered, pure psychological degradation. She was very narcissistic, such as entering beauty pageants, taking modeling classes, and becoming a varsity song girl (i.e., cheer leader) in high school.  She craved the attention, and would walk past me on campus as if we were complete strangers — no, actually she&#8217;d probably smile to a complete stranger.</p>
<p>Sometime between his teens and 20s, my younger brother, Alan, emerged with his own narcissistic and violent, sociopathic characteristics.  None of us were close growing up. <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-alan.png" rel="devil"><img src="http://phuqued.org/imgs2/quote-th.png" align="right" title="Entitlement (perceived)."></a>The only two siblings who maintained an ongoing  relationship into adulthood were Kathy, the oldest, and Alan, the youngest. They also shared the similar violent and hostile temperaments, the charming personas, and the complete lack of compassion, morality, integrity and of course, any semblance of honesty.  <span id="more-4140"></span></p>
<p>I guess from sheer luck, the gene skipped me. Doing so, though, resulted in me becoming the outcast, the same way my mom would end up being treated.</p>
<p><b>Question:</b> <em>What&#8217;s considered a bad-upbringing in terms of a sociopath &#8230; being spoiled or being abused?&nbsp;  Just food for thought.</em></p>
<h6>It&#8217;s in our Genes &#8230; <u>not</u> our upbringing.</h6>
<blockquote><p>In summary, the bad gene was brought into the family from my dad&#8217;s side, and he passed it to three of his four offspring. I believe that I carry the gene, though I was the skipped generation. From what I&#8217;ve been able to gather, my dad got the bad gene from his mother&#8217;s side. The source paths don&#8217;t seem that difficult to identify, as long as one has a sufficient, if not just a minimal amount of experience to compare both parents.</p></blockquote>
<p> Obtaining additional knowledge gathered from other branches of the family would prove very beneficial as well. And as luck would have it, I was recently contacted by a &#8220;distant cousin&#8221; from another branch of our family.  He located me on Ancestry.com — a site I registered on a few years ago as a free member, and frankly, that was all I ever did. But his contact was very timely.</p>
<p>To tell my story completely, one must also know the physical trauma and injuries  I endured, beginning with a broken back at the age of 12, and how my siblings used that to increase their character assassination of me, sometime after my hospital stay about 40 years later.  </p>
<p>At the end of 2001, I had surgery on my back, and was infected with MRSA around my spine.  Initially not even expected to survive, and after 120 days of intensive treatment, I never fully recovered. You can read all about the details leading up to that event from the links in the right column, right under MY NINE LIVES. <h>If you do read it, pay close attention to the characteristics of my surgeon, and see if you recognize any familiar traits.</h> </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said many times: &#8220;They kept me alive, but took away my life.&#8221;</p>
<h6>How many sociopaths have you had in your life?</h6>
<p>People who think they can read 10-steps on how to identify a sociopath need a reality check — it&#8217;s virtually impossible.  Sociopaths are so cunning, such great actors, so manipulative, seemingly some of the nicest people around, that if you do suspect someone, there&#8217;s a good chance you identified a jerk. Sociopaths focus everything <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/bernard.jpg"><img src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/bernard-th.jpg" align="right" title="Real-world sociopath Bernard Madoff (before prison). He stole $50,000,000,000.00"></a>on hiding their true personality. They are the ones most people never suspect.  Such as Bernard Madoff.</p>
<p>Unless you happen to witness something that sends chills up your spine — chances are you&#8217;ll never suspect anything. But if you do see something, you better hope they didn&#8217;t see you.  If they discovered you witnessed something, anything, even nothing but they react from their own paranoia, it&#8217;s time for you to change jobs, or even move out of state.  Because even if that individual laughs it off with an acceptable excuse, they now know you saw something that could threaten them.</p>
<h6>The sociopath will win. They have no limits &#8230; you do.</h6>
<p>They may even appear to become better friends with you, and that&#8217;s all it would be is &#8220;appearance.&#8221;  What they could be doing is keeping a closer eye on you, and without raising your suspicions, attempt to determine exactly what you do know, what you did see, and what you will discuss.  While at the same time, as they learn more about you, they could begin the process to decimate your character, spreading the most evil and malicious lies about you. So evil, that people who had associated with you, will begin to avoid you.  </p>
<p><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-denial.png" rel="devil"><img src="http://phuqued.org/imgs2/quote-th.png" align="right" ></a>A sociopath takes no risks with having their public persona revealed as a fake, as that would threaten their entire lifestyle. Even if only fueled by their own paranoia, a sociopath will not wait to go on the defensive.  What they do is what I call: offensive-revenge.  A sociopath has virtually no boundaries or limits &#8230; they see it as a job that needs to be done, and nothing will get in their way to prevent them from achieving success. Not even the legal system.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all in their public persona.  Someone may present their persona at home, 24/7, just as they do everywhere else.  Even a spouse can be extremely difficult to recognize as having sociopathic characteristics if they are determined to hide it from everyone, as they know even family can be a threat.</p>
<p>I believe that a sociopath can be so extremely ruthless, so evil, so guilt-free, that they are capable of what I call: indirect homicide. Such as a victim that became so banished and an outcast by those he considered friends, that the victim could resort to ending his own life.  </p>
<p>And that sociopath would continue their maliciously evil lifestyle without losing a bit of sleep.</p>
<p>But frankly, we should really start at the beginning &#8230;</p>
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<p><em><b>NEXT:</b></em>&nbsp; <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/?p=3836"><b>Growing-up hated by my loved ones</b></a>.</p>
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		<title>AUDIO: A Sociopath &amp; Disciple Make Their Plans.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
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<font size="5" face="Georgia">I</font>f you suspect you are targeted by a sociopath, you MUST be proactive in gathering strong evidence to defend yourself &#8230; do not think you can gather it later.  <a rel="85" href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/disciples-1.png"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/google-th.png" border="0" alt="" /></a><a rel="85" href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/disciples-2.png"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/spacer.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a>A sociopath&#8217;s skill is accumulating followers, blind followers, and their most devoted, those I&#8217;ve labeled disciples.  When it comes time to prove your innocence, even having the best evidence will still prove a challenge to convince anyone already sold on your &#8220;guilt&#8221; — whatever they were made to believe.</p>
<p>Therefore, the most important asset a victim can have is an abundance of undeniable evidence &#8230; solid substantiation to support the truth.  Your word against their&#8217;s has a foregone conclusion — you will lose. Virtually no one will believe your description of the sociopath&#8217;s activities, statements, or their real character, since that charming persona has already destroyed your character, made themselves look incapable of any such activity you claim, and likely made you out to be a dishonest jackass.  </p>
<h6>The sociopath will not lose</h6>
<p>A sociopath&#8217;s goal is to protect their public persona — protect their real personality from being exposed —  <span id="more-3522"></span>and nothing will get in their way. They need to make sure your credibility is destroyed, so if anyone does listen to you, they won&#8217;t believe you. Saying that it is truly a living nightmare doesn&#8217;t do it justice. Becoming a victim is indescribable, something I know all too well.  But what quickly becomes a sad realization, is how shallow and gullible the typical person is.  People will easily pass judgment on an innocent victim based upon nothing but hearsay.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not much better evidence than having the sociopath&#8217;s own words recorded.  And better yet, audio with video.  Technology has reduced the size of video cameras for spy use, and hidden them in items as small as a working ball-point pen — that&#8217;s right, a video camera with audio in a pen.  </p>
<p>Be patient &#8230; don&#8217;t try to force the sociopath to say anything.  They&#8217;ll get suspicious, and stop talking to you.</p>
<h6>Recording in Person</h6>
<p>Back during my divorce in 1995, I carried a micro-cassette recorder in my pocket, recording all discussions with my then-future ex-wife,  Julie.  Having it in my pocket, though, without a suitable external mic, resulted in very noisy, hard-to-hear audio.  But it was better than nothing.</p>
<p>Technology has advanced quite a bit since then, such as a typical iPhone or iPod can record 10 or more hours without stopping.  Discovering that you&#8217;ve been targeted creates the immediate need to begin collecting the best evidence possible to discredit your predator.  And I say &#8220;immediate&#8221; because by the time someone realizes that they&#8217;ve been targeted, it&#8217;s possible that the sociopath had a head-start of a year or more. </p>
<h6>Recording Phone Calls Legally</h6>
<p>In late January 1995, about three weeks after Julie moved out, I set-up a phone recording system to record the conversations I had with her.  That was a Sunday. When I returned home from work the following day, I discovered that Julie was sneaking into my home during the day and taking things &#8230; as well as using the phone.</p>
<p>In her very first use of the phone with the recorder connected, she called her office and spoke with her assistant, Christopher.  That was precisely when I discovered that Christopher was much more than her assistant. She noted early in the conversation that the phones had been moved around, to which they both discussed for a while, then concluded that I was probably recording calls. But once they reached that conclusion, they simply went on with their conversation.</p>
<p>In my state of residence, one can record any phone call when at least one party on the call is aware of being recorded.  There does not need to be any notification, such as a 15-second beep, or any other announcement.  Just as long as at least one person knows.</p>
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<h6>Acknowledgement of being recorded</h6>
<p>This first 8-second clip is of Christopher addressing me directly on the tape, thereby indicating he knew he was being recorded &#8230; they both did.  In any event, I did not intend to record them, as they were using my phone without permission, when Julie snuck into my home while I was at work.  </p>
<p>Based on all these things, I believe Christopher&#8217;s following statement would have been an admission of acknowledgement, and would have worked against them if the case had gone to court.		</p>
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<h6>&#8220;&#8230; take food.&#8221;</h6>
<p>Julie called Christopher at work, and obviously from her first comment, she came to my house to take a drill.  </p>
<p>The very next part, Julie asks Christopher if he can think of anything else she should take, and under her mumblings, he says &#8220;take food.&#8221; As you listen through to the end, pay attention to her reaction &#8230; she knew that I&#8217;d be home to feed the kids within the hour.			</p>
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<h6>A Battered Woman? &#8230; or an Evil, Scheming Woman?</h6>
<p>Listen closely to Julie in this recording. Does she sound like a frightened, battered woman, or woman just taking care of business? No one on this planet has ever seen any violence from me, including Julie.  But Julie, herself, is unpredictably violent. </p>
<p>This allows you to hear how easily a sociopath will plan malicious lies to destroy an innocent person. Just business. Only six weeks earlier, she was trying to convince me to have another child with her.			</p>
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<h6>&#8220;Break the Rules &#8230;. It&#8217;s Really the Way I Think&#8221;</h6>
<p>What Julie really means here is: &#8220;Break the <u>Law</u> or whatever it takes.&#8221;</p>
<p>The following is one reason, I believe, why Julie&#8217;s sister, Lori, told me to get a restraining order to keep Julie away from DK and EK.  Lori also said, &#8220;Larry, you <u>need</u> to get custody to <u>save</u> those kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lastly, pay attention, not only to what she said, but how she said it — <h>she&#8217;s on an psychotic roller coaster, illicit drugs, or both</h>.  			</p>
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<h6>&#8220;&#8230; it&#8217;s Forcing me to Take the Kids and Run &#8230;&#8221;</h6>
<p>&#8230; and this is another of Lori&#8217;s suggestions. In this clip, Julie blatantly lies by stating that I am making threats.  </p>
<p>She continually destroyed my character by making me out to be a threatening, violent person, and did so with ease and without a hint of guilt.  I do believe that this was all brought on by a mania, as she is also bipolar.</p>
<p>Take note, though, as to what she&#8217;s doing: <i>Julie is <u>making a threat</u> to take the kids. That would be illegal.</i>&nbsp; </p>
<p>As above, note her emotional swings — I think it&#8217;s both.  </p>
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<h6>How Character Assassination Spreads</h6>
<p>The following audio clip shows how easily <b>character assassination</b> spreads.  Julie has to keep her credibility, so she has to stick to her lies &#8230; she continued it to the present. </p>
<p>1) The male voice is Christopher&#8217;s — he and I had <u>never</u> met, nor had we ever even spoken. </p>
<p>2) Christopher states that he has me figured out, yet he&#8217;s only repeating back to Julie the malicious lies that she&#8217;s fed him about me. </p>
<p>3) Julie agrees with him as if he figured it out on his own.</p>
<p>4) Ironically, even though he says that I&#8217;m controlling, he&#8217;s blind to see that he&#8217;s being controlled by Julie. </p>
<p>5)  This provides more details as to the lies Julie was (and is) spreading about me to not just Christopher, but everyone, including my sister, Kathy. She must keep her story straight to avoid getting busted.</p>
<p>6) What Christopher stated about me is what he will tell others &#8230; and the character assassination simply continues.</p>
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<h6>Julie calls me</h6>
<p>I&#8217;ve got many of these. This is a very typical call between Julie and me during that period. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s also lying here, as I knew she was <u>not</u> at &#8220;Jill&#8217;s house.&#8221;</p>
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<h6>&#8220;&#8230; play doctor with me &#8230; good, I like that.&#8221;</h6>
<p>In 1995, I was granted full legal and physical custody of our four-year-old son, and two-year-old daughter.  As soon as Julie discovered I was filing for custody, she threw in the towel.  </p>
<p>My attorney asked me why she gave in so quickly.  My response was simple and candid, <em>&#8220;Because everything I told you was the truth.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Six days after the divorce was final, Julie and Christopher married — she has since walked out on him at least once with a new man already lined up.</p>
<p>Five months after the divorce, my three-year old daughter, EK, whispered to me that she and Christopher play doctor together on her mom&#8217;s weekends.  </p>
<p>I called the police the next morning, and we set up a meeting for both my kids with the state&#8217;s child protection services.  The deputy confirmed he would be there, too.  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 50px;">In hearing that, I made one request of the officer, <em>&#8220;Would you please be in plain clothes?&#8221; </em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 50px;">His attitude changed immediately, and he answered with a very defensive: <em>&#8220;Why?!&#8221;</em> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 50px;"><em>&#8220;Because if they feel more comfortable, I think they&#8217;ll speak more openly with you.&#8221;</em>  </p>
<p style="padding-left: 50px;"><em>&#8220;I&#8217;ll see what I can do,&#8221;</em>&nbsp; he replied.  I could tell he meant, <em>&#8220;No.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He arrived in his full blue uniform.  After the interviews, he said he couldn&#8217;t do anything else since they didn&#8217;t say much.  And, get this, he was the deputy in charge of child abuse issues.</p>
<p>So because of that one cop&#8217;s arrogance, I had to let my daughter visit her mom that weekend, tormented knowing that Christopher, who works with kids in a middle school, was going to play doctor with EK.</p>
<p>What I didn&#8217;t know when I filed the complaint in the summer of 1995, was that I had a recording of Christopher asking my daughter to play doctor.  All I was able to report in 1995 was that EK had whispered it to me.  I had a lot of audio tapes, but since we didn&#8217;t go to trial, I just never listened to them all.</p>
<p>While preparing another defense from another law suit filed by Julie in 2006, I discovered the recording.  Julie filed a completely bogus law suit against me because she discovered I knew much more about her background and activities than she thought I knew.  </p>
<p>So, because of that paranoia-driven fear of being exposed, Julie immediately went into a sociopath&#8217;s &#8220;offensive-revenge&#8221;  in which she completely perjured herself in a court-filed complaint, and to summarize this for now, she kidnapped my daughter. I believe kidnap means to illegally take a child (i.e., any aged human), and that&#8217;s what she did — with the court&#8217;s blessing.  There&#8217;s too much to get into it here, but I will go into detail in the future. So, yes, a sociopath can manipulate the courts, too.</p>
<p>So, this is part of the phone call from 1995, that I found in 2006.  No &#8220;authorities&#8221; ever heard this recording (not that it would have made any difference). </p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><h>Regarding the sound quality:</h> there may have been a recording problem (e.g., weak battery, etc.) &#8230; but, yes, <i>that <u>is</u> very close to Christopher&#8217;s regular voice</i>. My daughter sounds just as I remember.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;">When my son attended Rising Starr Middle School where Christopher is the librarian, he told me that Christopher had a deeper voice at school than at home. Hmm, now why would someone like Christopher want a job that kept him around children?</p>
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Updated &#038; Revised: 18 Apr 2010</p>
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		<title>Growing-up hated by my loved ones.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For three years before I was born, even with another sister between us, Kathy got all dad&#8217;s attention. Old family photos hold many secrets. Kathy was always in dad&#8217;s lap. Marcia was always in mom&#8217;s. Mom was pregnant again. If my folks didn’t have a boy, that would put an end to any future generations [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="5" face="Georgia">F</font>or three years before I was born, even with another sister between us, Kathy got <u>all</u> dad&#8217;s attention. Old family photos hold many secrets. Kathy was always in dad&#8217;s lap. Marcia was always in mom&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Mom was pregnant again. If my folks didn’t have a boy, that would put an end to any future generations of our family branch. In that vein, Marcia was probably a disappointment of sorts, not being a boy, which contributed to Kathy maintaining dad&#8217;s favor after Marcia was born.</p>
<h6>It&#8217;s a Boy.</h6>
<p>Namesake, even. Photos of me being held by every distant relative, many whom had not appeared in any previous family photos, and virtually no sign of Kathy in any of those early photos.  <span id="more-3836"></span></p>
<p>Now there was a third child to fit into the family photos, but instead of dad just putting me on his other knee, he removed Kathy from &#8220;her&#8221; place of honor, setting her alone on the cold couch, and placed me on the spot that Kathy considered her own.  </p>
<p>Kathy must have continually seen the <h>pride in dad&#8217;s face</h>, holding this new intruder that dad had so easily replaced her with. She lost her special perch and dad&#8217;s attention &#8230; nothing she experienced with Marcia&#8217;s arrival. Undoubtedly, she wanted her position back with dad, so the resentment she built was most assuredly focussed on her intruder, and how she would need to dethrone him.</p>
<p><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/family53.jpg"><img title="Kathy lost her perch. &nbsp; Note the stress in her little hands." src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/family53-th.png" align="right"/></a>Kathy must have felt deeply rejected and hurt, and apparently, no one noticed.  Even in this photo, Marcia is very relaxed, I&#8217;m having a great time, but look closely at the stress in Kathy&#8217;s little hands.  Since some of my earliest memories include unprovoked hostility from Kathy, I really wonder when it actually began. As young and innocent as I was, I had already become a target. </p>
<h6>A rejection that so obsessed Kathy, she never let it go.</h6>
<p>By the time I got a little older, and began storing my own memories, <h>I have no recollection, whatsoever, of ever seeing that pride in my dad’s face</h> in real life. Never. It was only captured in photos when I was very young.  What could have changed in a child between the ages of two and five?</p>
<p>All my memories of him include a face with anger, disappointment, or frustration. Never once in my childhood did my dad ever tell me he loved me, nor did he ever hug me.  But I watched as he often hugged my sisters and told them he loved them &#8230; obviously, I didn&#8217;t live up. I do not believe anyone could have been younger than I was, when I was set-up for failure. </p>
<h6>Attack avoidance.</h6>
<p>Memories of my childhood are filled with my abusive, alcoholic father spanking me, and only me, when I was young, then turning to hitting me as I got older.  My mom would place herself between us to let me get away.  Then I&#8217;d hear dad yelling at mom for &#8220;interfering.&#8221;   My oldest sister, Kathy, was violently hostile to me, and me alone. It was obvious to me that they hated me, but since it was what I was used to, I simply accepted it.   What mattered was staying safe.</p>
<p>I was spanked often, even though he didn&#8217;t need much of a reason to spank me.  I don&#8217;t recall my sister, Kathy, or my brother, Alan, <u>ever</u> being spank.  There was the bare hand spank (usually avoided since it would hurt his hand), the belt, the wood paddle, the broom stick, and whatever else was within reach. </p>
<h6>Witnessing a public persona.</h6>
<p>When we were young, we always went to church services together on Sunday.  Not that I knew what I was witnessing back then, but that was when I first experienced my dad&#8217;s public persona.  He could be yelling at us in the car one minute, but as soon as we pulled into the parking lot, he&#8217;d smile and wave.  I&#8217;d watch him walk up to his buddies, and I wondered how he could change so quickly.  </p>
<p>He had just been swinging into the back-seat and hitting us in the car, and now he&#8217;s yucking it up with his church pals.  He belonged to the mens&#8217; club, volunteered his company&#8217;s services to the church, and always greeted everyone with skilled showmanship.  He should have sold cars.</p>
<p>During summers, when I would go to dad&#8217;s office with him, I realized he was a completely different person to his employees as well, and if they were around, he&#8217;d treat me with a modicum of respect, too.  He treated his employees so well, that I remember wishing I only worked for him.  But once we got in the car to go home, he was able to remove his persona, and remind me what he was really made of.  He would open-up on me for something I said, something I did, but no matter what day it was, there would always be something.</p>
<h6>Having it backwards all these years.</h6>
<p>Living during those times, I always felt that first and foremost, it was dad who hated me, and since Kathy was dad&#8217;s favorite, she hated me, too. And knowing she would not get in trouble, she also contributed her own hostility.  At least, that&#8217;s what I believed until recently &#8230; amazing how a series of current events can correct history.</p>
<p>In some ways, dad&#8217;s and Kathy&#8217;s abuse was very similar, but not in every way. They both abused me physically and emotionally, such as being continually called “stupid” and “will never amount to anything” — funny though, but it was Kathy who never amounted to anything.  She&#8217;s never kept a job.  But one way they differed was in their physical approach: dad wanted to hurt me, but Kathy wanted to injure me. There&#8217;s a huge difference.</p>
<p>Dad was physically abusive to me when he drank, and although he drank everyday, he didn&#8217;t begin drinking until 5pm.  A tall tumbler filled with vodka on ice is what he&#8217;d call one drink.  He never had just one, though.  So I did my best to stay away during that period.  </p>
<h6>When push came to shove, mom stood tall.</h6>
<p>Once, when I was 16 or 17, I walked into the house to find dad waiting for me with closed fists. Luckily he was a terrible aim when he was drunk, but he just kept coming. Mom came in, yelling at dad to stop, but he wasn&#8217;t listening.  Mom became almost hysterical, and headed to the other side of the house.  Minutes later, Kathy ran in, announcing that mom had called the cops.  Dad immediately stop and left the room, but Kathy continued looking at me, and said, &#8220;If I were you, I&#8217;d get out of here.&#8221; Her comment made me believe that I was in big trouble &#8230; probably what she was hoping for.  </p>
<p>I did leave on foot, just at dusk.  Sometime after dark, as I was walking through an unlit field, I was suddenly hit with a spot light, and then a second &#8230; I simply came to a stop, and waited.  I heard footsteps coming towards me from two directions.  The first officer simply asked if I was Larry &#8230; to which I replied, &#8220;Yes.&#8221;  He then asked if I&#8217;d come with him, and I agreed. We walked backed to his car, he opened his front passenger door for me, and drove me back to our house. In addition to the car I was arriving in, there were three patrol cars parked in front.  The word &#8220;serious&#8221; probably never had a greater meaning.  Once inside, a detective introduced himself and asked me what happened.  </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve always been, I opened-up with complete candor.  After no more then five or ten minutes, he got up, and asked me to wait there until he returned.  He headed to the other side of the house, where my dad evidently was. Minutes later, he reappeared, and said, &#8220;If this ever happens again, please call me&#8221; — and with that, he handed me his business card. I recall being shocked, with my head spinning &#8230; I was led to believe kids would usually take the fall if it involved parents. But instead, it was the first time an authority figure revealed to me that my dad was in the wrong. </p>
<p>Mom did an extremely brave thing for which she probably paid for. The cops didn&#8217;t arrest dad, as I had no injuries.  But he never attempted to hit me again.</p>
<h6>Sibling brutality.</h6>
<p><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/size.jpg" rel="lytebox"><img src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/size-th.jpg" title="This photo brings back a lot. Look at my face, then Kathy's, and note the size difference." align="right"/></a>Kathy, though, had no time constraints.  Every chance she got, I was in her sights.  And she was brutal. She wouldn&#8217;t just scratch, but she&#8217;d attempt to create canals &#8230; deep bloody gouges. I always had to be aware of her legs, too, as they were her weapons of choice.  As soon as I saw one leg swing back, I had very little time to twist and ruin her targeting. Instead of hitting her desired targets, I&#8217;d take the kick in my upper thigh.  An impact with such force that it would result in a black and blue bruise the size of a baseball. She always tried &#8230; she never succeeded.</p>
<p>I was also keenly aware that whenever Kathy brought home a friend, and introduced them to the family, her friends would greet my siblings quite differently than me. They would warmly acknowledge Marcia and Alan, but with me, they&#8217;d rarely make eye-contact and maybe mumbled a &#8220;hi.&#8221;  Though I was already a victim of it, it would still be many years before I knew the term &#8220;character assassination.&#8221;  The introduction I clearly remember was when Kathy introduced us to her future husband, Marlin.  After seeing how warmly he greeted the others, I felt I had leprosy when he greeted me.</p>
<h6>Kathy answered only to dad &#8230; not to mom.</h6>
<p>I also witnessed Kathy physically brutalizing mom. It was during one of Kathy&#8217;s arguments with mom, one which turned violent, that I first felt Kathy&#8217;s capability of true evil, cold-blooded hostility.  </p>
<p>I was about 10. After just arriving home on my bicycle, I heard yelling between Kathy and mom on the opposite side of the house. I arrived to see mom literally flying backwards across the hallway, slamming into the closet, her spine hitting the doorknob, screaming-out, then dropping to the floor crying, obviously in intense pain. Mom saw me when she first looked up from the floor, as I approached to help her.  When I got to mom was when I was first able to see Kathy&#8217;s closed bedroom door. </p>
<p>Kathy never opened her door to see if mom needed help.  I remember feeling a very eerie chill that, behind that door, Kathy was smiling. And because she never opened the door, Kathy never knew there had been an witness. There was no one else in the house.</p>
<h6>Out on my own.</h6>
<p>Within a month after graduating high school, I moved out. The abusive relationship I had with dad evolved into no relationship. Kathy had achieved her long-term objective of having dad to herself.  Kathy and Marlin had married and moved to Alaska. During my 20s, there would be periods of 2-3 years of no contact with dad.  Mom and I were very close, and I had a relationship with her like no one else in the family. </p>
<p>Dad would not let mom have a private conversation with me, so we&#8217;d have to wait until dad would be out doing errands. Then we&#8217;d talk and laugh for 1-2 hours sometimes, until mom would say, &#8220;Oh, I hear the garage door opening &#8230; your dad&#8217;s home.&#8221; </p>
<p>Right when I&#8217;d hear him walk into the house, mom would say, &#8220;It&#8217;s Larry, he just called.&#8221; </p>
<p>Mom was such a funny lady, yet I don&#8217;t believe anyone in the family, but I, was aware of it.  Mom would never speak openly to me unless she was alone, and as time went on, I realized that meant not only dad, but no one else in the family could be present.</p>
<p>Of course, now that makes more sense than ever.  Dad brought the &#8220;bad gene&#8221; into the family. Dad, as well as all three of my siblings exhibit sociopathic characteristics.  I&#8217;ve caught all of them lying, and I believe they&#8217;ll lie to be safe.  </p>
<p>For some reason, I was spared the effects of the bad gene. I assume I was the skipped generation. That also meant I was closest to mom than any of the others, but other than in mom&#8217;s eyes, I was the borne outcast.</p>
<h6>Time for change</h6>
<p>At about the age of 30, after all those years of emotional and physical abuse, which led to my own fairly-low self-esteem, I met a very attractive woman who virtually fell for me.  She treated me differently than anyone else ever had, which in turn had a very positive effect on my own well-being. </p>
<p>In just less than a year, driven by Julie&#8217;s desire to establish a solid future together, we were married.  And with that, <a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/eval-seeing.png"><img title="From my ex-wife's psychological evaluation." src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/quote-th.png" align="right"/></a>I began the next chapter of my life, with the most psychotic sociopath I would ever know.  Bipolar, borderline schizophrenic, and dangerously vengeful — all verified when I found her psychological evaluation, twelve years later.</p>
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<p>Realizing I was running out of time is one of the reasons I jumped on <strong>Semi-related Parallel Trauma</strong> to cover another very integral part of my recent past, but I didn&#8217;t even get to the guts of it. You see, I was infected with MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) around my spine during a somewhat routine operation. The majority of those infected, especially in hospitals, don&#8217;t survive.  I wasn&#8217;t supposed to.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know, MRSA is the third leading cause of death in the US.  It kills more than those who die in car accidents, those who die of HIV-related complications and AIDS, and those who die of breast cancer &#8230; combined.  <span id="more-3632"></span></p>
<p>Remember how much we heard about AIDS, and the fear was so high, people were afraid they could get it from a toilet seat?  Now here&#8217;s something that makes AIDS pale in comparison, but why is it not at the top of the news?  Could it be that all you need to do is follow the money?  MRSA is primarily spread at hospitals.  Most hospitals do not release mortality rates due to MRSA. Could you imagine if they did?  People would select hospitals with the least deaths due to MRSA.  So what would other hospitals need to do to draw back business &#8230; uh, I mean patients?  </p>
<p>Clean up their acts (and their hospitals) to get their unnecessary MRSA deaths down.  And let&#8217;s see, what would it require to accomplish that?  Hmm. Could it be money?  But if they can keep the whole thing hushed, what&#8217;s a few lives?  Did you know that computer chips are built in rooms much cleaner than the typical hospital operating room?  It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re struggling for the technology.  I knew of a very active mother in her mid-40s, with three daughters, who finally decided to get her tennis knee fixed.  Three days after the surgery, she was dead.  </p>
<p>I survived, but I&#8217;ll always have the MRSA bacteria in me. One time, for sure, I thought it was back to finish me off. They kept me alive, but took away my life. Even the sociopaths in my life used my physical condition when it was a benefit to take advantage of me.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if things don&#8217;t change soon, I will lose my home, which would result in me becoming homeless.  My quality of life sucks now, but becoming homeless is unacceptable.  </p>
<p>Being homeless scares the hell out of me &#8230; death doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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<font color="#660099"><strong>Synopsis :: </strong>This is what happened when I published my first Web site on this topic in early 2009.  In 2007, two years earlier, I sent an email to my siblings telling them is they did not stop telling horrendous lies about me, I would go public, as it was all I had left to do.</font>  </p>
<p><font color="#660099">Things got quiet for almost two years, until I discovered from a relative who had not previously been involved, that they had a whole new impression of me.  A few months later, I went live with the first site, and revealed it to my sister, Kathy, showing her I was serious and thinking she may stop.  </font></p>
<p><font color="#660099">What happened next was beyond frightening, as the capabilities of her blind followers, known as disciples, came through with immediate revenge.  The following explains what happened.</font><br />
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&nbsp;<br />
<h><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/surrounded.png" rel="887"><img align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/google-th.png" border="0" alt=""  /></a><font size="5" face="Georgia">S</font>ociopaths spend their lives manipulating others,</h> all for selfish motives, yet they have the ability to make themselves appear to be some of the most impressive people around, including those of high morality and integrity.  They seem to have many friends, yet none of those &#8216;followers&#8217; actually know the real person, nor does the sociopath consider them a friend. Those &#8220;friends&#8221; only know the public persona, a very convincing personality that the sociopath creates to use and manipulate others.  </p>
<p>While many consider this person a friend, and assume the feeling is mutual, the sociopath is not interested in having friends &#8230; <h>the sociopath&#8217;s interest is in accumulating devoted followers.</h>  None of these &#8220;friends&#8221; would ever guess at the fact that they can be routinely suspected as knowing too much, placing them on very thin ice in becoming a target. </p>
<p>Estimates range from <h><em>4% to 12% of our society are sociopaths</em></h> &#8230; which means about every tenth or so person who reads this</a> is <u>not</u> going to appreciate it.</p>
<h6>Dangerous because of ignorance.</h6>
<p><h>Sociopaths are also very dangerous because of ignorance — not theirs, but everyone else&#8217;s.</h>  Virtually no one without real, first-hand experience is able to comprehend the reality of a sociopath.</p>
<p>A successful sociopath has their group of followers, but they will also have <h>some who have been so completely suckered, that I call <b>disciples</b></h>.  These are the people who have shown to be extremely gullible and easily manipulated.<br />
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They are such misguided believers that they become defenders of the sociopath, protectors from those persons they believe are trying to hurt their [sociopathic] <em>friend</em>&nbsp; because of their popularity and success.  They truly excel in living a life of denial, as well as <h>setting a new standard for ignorance.</h>  </p>
<p><h>Note that the word <em>ignorance</em>&nbsp; is based on the word <em>ignore</em>.</h>&nbsp; In my experience, that&#8217;s exactly what they do — they will ignore the truth.  No matter how many times I stated that I held nothing but truths, all of which had substantiation (i.e., evidence), they still refused to look at the evidence. These disciples will lie to benefit the sociopath, and even spy for them.  Yet they are so wrapped up and confused, that they truly believe that the bad people are the ones who are attempting to raise awareness.</p>
<p>Also, the disciples won&#8217;t even consider that they are being manipulated, used or suckered, nor do they believe they could ever be.  They take it as a huge offense if they are told they are being used.</p>
<p>The disciples don&#8217;t believe that anyone they know is a sociopath, and the only bad people are those with <i>false proofs</i>.&nbsp;  Given their blind devotion, disciples are also very dangerous — just as sociopaths are — because the disciples will spy for the sociopaths.</p>
<h6>How do I know this?</h6>
<p><a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/sociopathic-ex.png" rel="887"><img title="Country-of-Liars.com is iPhone-Android-Palm friendly." align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/google-ipod-th.png" border="0" alt="" /></a>Unfortunately, this has all be learned through my personal experience as a sociopath&#8217;s victim &#8230; and to make matters worse, <h>everyone involved is <em>family</em>.</h></p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve read my other posts here, you know that my oldest sister, Kathy, is a very malicious sociopath.  It wasn&#8217;t until 2003, though, just after I turned 50, that a tiny slip-up led to her discovery.  In the few short years since then, she was quite successful in maliciously destroying my character &#8230; so successful, in fact, that no one in my extended family will even reply to emails, let alone speak with me.  </p>
<p>In July, I wanted to see if one of my cousins, Mary, had been sucked in, too, as I knew her older sister, Carol, had been.  Since no one will speak with me, I needed to set-up something I could track.  Before I began this site [Country-of-Liars], I put together another site with detailed substantiation, proving that my sister, Kathy, was telling nothing but lies about me. My stated goal was simply to clear my name.</p>
<p>I wrote a list-type email explaining what the site was about, and why I put it together.  I also stated that I notified Kathy a week earlier about the existence of the site, but I had not heard anything from her.  The email that I produce had all the appearances of being sent to a list, but in fact, I only sent to one person: Mary.  It was all in perception &#8230; I wanted her to think she was sent it as part of a list.  </p>
<p>Being a new site, it had few visitors, allowing me to see where the visitors were coming from.</p>
<p>The day I sent it to Mary, I had no visitors from her neck of the woods: Idaho — actually, if I had any visitors, there were no more than a few. The following day, though, the site got a lot of activity from one location — Mesa, Arizona.  Coincidently, my sister, Kathy — the sociopath in question —  lives in Mesa, Arizona.  Kathy went directly to the URL I provided to Mary, and browsed the site for 35-45 minutes.</p>
<p>In turn, that makes Mary a disciple.  Without even looking at a single page on the site, a site with nothing but substantiation to prove Kathy is a blatant liar, Mary forwarded the email to my sister, Kathy.  She was protecting my sister, but from what?  Truth?  That&#8217;s all it had in it. Substantiated truth. </p>
<p>Why is it that people do not want to know the truth?</p>
<h6>Pay-back time?</h6>
<p>Almost immediately, though, some very strange things began to occur.  I have 16 years of Web experience, and nothing has ever come close to what happened over the next 10-days.  Coincidence?  I think not.</p>
<p>Up until I sent the email to Mary, googling my sister&#8217;s full name would bring up that site — the site I had just created about her — and list it on the very first page of Google results.  </p>
<p>Between 24-48 hours later, that site quit appearing entirely in any Google search results on any page. Gone. Vanished. Blacklisted. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt in my mind that someone on the inside at Google had blacklisted it. <h>I&#8217;ve never heard of Google doing such a thing, as I believe that would be called: <b>censorship</b></h> — not something that&#8217;s in Google&#8217;s corporate policy.  As bad as that was, things quickly got much worse. I believe it&#8217;s called &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;"><strong>re-venge</strong> <em>noun</em> :: the <u>desire</u> to inflict hurt or harm in retribution.</p>
<p>I own and operate an award-winning Web site that has been online since 1995.  It simply provides a free service in a vertical market &#8230; and it&#8217;s been my flagship site for about 15 years.  </p>
<p>Three days after I sent the email to cousin-Mary, I received an email from Google at 2AM on a Saturday morning, an email that I did not see for another eight hours. It stated that one of Google&#8217;s bots (i.e., robotic PCs) that was visiting and indexing my flagship site, coincidently had been infected with malware (interesting, but &#8220;malware&#8221; is short for &#8220;malicious software&#8221;&#8230; and I have a very &#8220;malicious sister&#8221; who was probably behind it).<br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/malware-block.png" rel=""><img title="I don't believe I'd go further." align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/malware-block-th.png" border="0" alt=""  /></a><br />
So to protect the general public from that malware, <h>Google was notifying me that they were now blocking my site</h> — something that had begun more than eight hours earlier.  </p>
<p>Once Google blocks a site, all search engines do.  Only one person has ongoing access to that site, and that would be me.  The public cannot add anything to the site, and Google is my only advertiser on the site.  </p>
<p>I included the advertising notation because Google&#8217;s block page refers to links that could go to sites intending to spread malware.  Often, those links to the malware sites are advertisers links — albeit false and misleading advertisers — but just about the only links pointing out of my site are from advertisers.  And all the ads on my site are fed through Google&#8217;s ad program &#8230; Google is my <u>only</u> advertising provider.<br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/malware-drop.png" rel="7"><img title="The Power of Google: lost users. About 80% overnight." align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/malware-drop-th.png" border="0" alt=""  /></a><br />
Google would not provide any details to me, such as where on my site the malware supposedly infected their computer. They were in no apparent rush to remove the block, even though I was unable to find anything malicious on the site.  Even when I had other services scan the site, none of them could not find anything malicious, either, but they said it was their company policy that they maintained the block as long as Google did.  I was getting that &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; feeling.</p>
<h6>Apparent Sabotage</h6>
<p>I awoke on day three to find my site was still blocked, so I called the corporate offices of Google. Have you ever tried to find a phone number for Google? I do believe it&#8217;s the one and only thing you cannot find by googling. The person who answered said <h>there was no one at Google corporate who could speak with me about the block, and then he even stated, with a bit of a chuckle, that Google can&#8217;t and doesn&#8217;t block sites.</h>  That&#8217;s precisely when I asked to speak with his supervisor.  He told me he could not transfer me anywhere, and eventually he just hung-up on me.<br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/safe-browsing-dirty.png" rel="safe"><img title="The unexplained additional host ... click to see the change." align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/safe-browsing-dirty-th.png" border="0" alt=""  /></a><br />
Then, on day four, I got my biggest surprise.  My Web hosting provider (DreamHost) is in the Los Angeles area, and has been my only hosting provider for the past four years.  When I pulled up some records, though (curiously, on a Google page), <h>those records indicated that my site was being hosted by <u>two</u> hosting providers — DreamHost &#8230; <em>and very suspiciously, by <b>Google</b></em>.</h>  </p>
<p>Without obtaining my approval, nor even notifying me, someone had copied my entire site to Google&#8217;s servers &#8230; which means that <h>one or more people inside Google had complete and unapproved access to my site</h> &#8230; and what could be a legitimate reason? There is none. Yet they were able to do anything they wanted to, such as load malware on my site and send a googlebot in to get infected.  At that point, the warnings and site block would kick-in automatically.<br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/safe-browsing-clean.png" rel="safe"><img title="The correct single host." align="right" src="http://country-of-liars.com/imgs/spacer.gif" border="0" alt=""  /></a><br />
I immediately inquired at DreamHost. It wasn&#8217;t until I showed them a copy of the page that they became believers. They never experienced anything like it, but, since it was Google, they did not know what they could do.  Their feeling mirrored mine as something was not on the up-and-up.</p>
<p>I certainly doubt that all sites, world-wide, found to have suspicious software, would be transferred automatically to Google&#8217;s servers. That would be ludicrous. I was not supposed to see that information, and I&#8217;m sure someone was betting I wouldn&#8217;t.  I was logged into my Google account, and was navigating through pages I&#8217;d never been to before, when I discovered the dual-servers &#8230; something so remote that I could have easily missed, as I did the first time I looked at the page.  It was just a line of text, on a page filled with text, and buried in the middle of the page.</p>
<p>No one has ever been able to provide a legitimate reason as to why my entire site was copied over to Google servers. I was down for almost 100 hours, and as you can see, the impact was immediate, and potentially hurt me in the long-run, too.  It certainly smells of revenge. It&#8217;s not something I ever felt that Google was officially behind.  But having grown up in Silicon Valley, with family still living there — family who supports my sister Kathy — it doesn&#8217;t seem very remote that someone working for Google is a friend of my sister&#8217;s, or my cousin&#8217;s. At the very least, the activity was unethical and immoral, if not illegal.</p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#660099"><strong>ADDENDUM – MAR 2010</strong>: Although all this took place during the summer of 2009, it was still an unanswered question in my mind, as to why my site was copied to Google.  And not just copied to a Google server, but it stated that my site was being hosted by Google, in addition to Dreamhost.  </p>
<p><font color="#660099">Enough time had passed that I decided to ask in <b>Google&#8217;s Support Forums</b> if what happened to my site was typical.  Reading through the thread is eye-opening, as the very first person to respond, just another user, understood exactly what I was asking.  But after that, I only got the run-around, attempts to derail my question, and suspiciously getting me to reveal the site I was referring to.  </p>
<p><font color="#660099">Yet the question was not, at all, site specific. It was a simple, general question regarding procedures — i.e., does Google do THIS, yes or no?  Also, read the last entry in the thread, which is mine.  Note what I asked, and how that brought everything to a stop.</p>
<p><font color="#660099">Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=59192420dd39f80b&#038;hl=en" target="_blank"><b>THE GOOGLE THREAD</b></a>.&nbsp; NOTE: a Google account may be necessary to access their support forum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Revenge is a sociopathic characteristic that I have personally felt the wrath of in many ways.  I also discovered it as a diagnosed trait of my ex-wife, Julie, while reading her psychological evaluation.  The clinical psychologist stated that Julie would justify even the slightest acts of revenge.  My personal experience corroborates with the clinical evaluation. Julie was unpredictably violent.</p>
<p>When a sociopath feels the need to defend their public persona from being exposed as fake, their strategy (i.e., offensive-revenge) is usually to destroy their victim&#8217;s character, turning them into an outcast, which in extreme cases, could lead to severe depression and even suicide. </p>
<p>So a sociopath may not commit the violence themselves — especially if it would be geographically inconvenient — though they may lay down such an onslaught of heinous acts against their victim, that they could fully intend to drive that person to the person&#8217;s limit.  They literally can destroy a person&#8217;s life, without a single night of lost sleep. They truly have no remorse, no guilt &#8230; if they believe it needs to get done, it&#8217;s just business.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;">The following occurred in early 1995, just as our divorce proceedings were winding down (after Julie threw in the towel, granting me full custody). </p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;">One Friday evening, as Julie was picking up the kids for the weekend, she let them run on ahead to her car, turned back to me, and while looking directly into my eyes and wearing a big smile, she casually slipped in a subtle death threat. She then turned and practically skipped back to her car.  I don&#8217;t know what she saw in my eyes, but I saw very evil sincerity in hers.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;">I&#8217;ve been through more bad luck than most people ever face in this country, in a lifetime.  And no, I don&#8217;t want pity. It&#8217;s rare when a day goes by that I don&#8217;t at least think about my own exit strategy. </p>
<p style="padding-left: 20px;">Even though it has been 15 years since our divorce, Julie has done her most evil acts against me within the past few years — when I least expected it.  Julie apparently was always waiting for opportunities, and based on time alone, I let my guard down.</p>
<h6>What&#8217;s next?</h6>
<p>After discovering the first sociopath in my life, all I did was open my eyes, research the Web to increase my knowledge and awareness, and discovered, quite easily, that there was more than just one.  It also allowed me to look back and finally have answers &#8230; answers that fully explained the activities of certain people in my past &#8230; some I worked with, others I knew socially.  </p>
<p>Due to their ability to charm and create a following, sociopaths are a natural for high places, such as politics, corporate executives, and Wall Street. You know <em>at least</em> one sociopath now, many throughout your life, as they&#8217;re some of the nicest, most impressive, not-genuinely charming people <em>you thought</em> you ever knew.</p>
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<p><strong>Related Posts:</strong><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/?p=5429">Looking for revenge?</a><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/2520/sociopath-protection/">Protect yourself from any sociopath.</a><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/2880/sociopaths-are-all-the-same-right/">Sociopaths are all the same … right?</a><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/2765/what-makes-a-sociopath-so-dangerous/">What makes a sociopath so dangerous?</a><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/851/psychopath-vs-sociopath/"> Psychopath/Sociopath: Similarities Outweigh Differences </a><br />
<a href="http://country-of-liars.com/359/another-sociopath-discovery/">Discovering Your Best Friend is a Sociopath</a><br />
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