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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Christine E,

Welcome!  I hope you did OK with your trial.  Unfortunately, a sociopath in the courtroom can be truly frightening.  It can provide clear evidence as to the power they wield.

Regarding your comments above, my apologies for being so late in responding. I must disagree with you about the cause(s) of Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), as being half genetics, and half up-bringing.  I state, with the utmost certainty, that it is all genetic, and would never occur from up-bringing only.

Keep in mind that one of your ex-husband&#039;s parents, at least one, carried the gene, and most likely, suffered from the disorder.  And at least one of his grandparents, a parent of his parent that gave him the gene, also was positive for the disorder.  

When you say &quot;up-bringing&quot; you are likely referring to the parent that carried the gene, and so on.  You even state that his parents did not parent him well.  That&#039;s because they, too — or at least one — was positive with APD.

I believe my own family provides the evidence to prove it&#039;s caused entirely by the genetic disorder.  I was physically and emotionally abused, yet I was the only one in my generation that did not get it. 

Yet, I gave it to my first daughter — hence, I did carry it.  I have not been able to find any incident of her mother, or her mother&#039;s family with the bad gene.

I was the only child that my dad treated differently than the others, the others being essentially spoiled.  If it were based on up-bringing due to being spoiled, the population of this planet would have imploded generations ago.  

Also, it does not require both elements to be present to provide a positive diagnosis of APD, how ever the up-bringing element would be defined.  What you are saying is that it requires two very different elements — parental up-bringing and a defective gene — before a positive diagnosis can be reached.  I believe if that theory were indeed true, this would be a much smaller problem, as it would be based on a percentage of chance.

I think I rest my case.&#160;  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Christine E,</p>
<p>Welcome!  I hope you did OK with your trial.  Unfortunately, a sociopath in the courtroom can be truly frightening.  It can provide clear evidence as to the power they wield.</p>
<p>Regarding your comments above, my apologies for being so late in responding. I must disagree with you about the cause(s) of Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), as being half genetics, and half up-bringing.  I state, with the utmost certainty, that it is all genetic, and would never occur from up-bringing only.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that one of your ex-husband&#8217;s parents, at least one, carried the gene, and most likely, suffered from the disorder.  And at least one of his grandparents, a parent of his parent that gave him the gene, also was positive for the disorder.  </p>
<p>When you say &#8220;up-bringing&#8221; you are likely referring to the parent that carried the gene, and so on.  You even state that his parents did not parent him well.  That&#8217;s because they, too — or at least one — was positive with APD.</p>
<p>I believe my own family provides the evidence to prove it&#8217;s caused entirely by the genetic disorder.  I was physically and emotionally abused, yet I was the only one in my generation that did not get it. </p>
<p>Yet, I gave it to my first daughter — hence, I did carry it.  I have not been able to find any incident of her mother, or her mother&#8217;s family with the bad gene.</p>
<p>I was the only child that my dad treated differently than the others, the others being essentially spoiled.  If it were based on up-bringing due to being spoiled, the population of this planet would have imploded generations ago.  </p>
<p>Also, it does not require both elements to be present to provide a positive diagnosis of APD, how ever the up-bringing element would be defined.  What you are saying is that it requires two very different elements — parental up-bringing and a defective gene — before a positive diagnosis can be reached.  I believe if that theory were indeed true, this would be a much smaller problem, as it would be based on a percentage of chance.</p>
<p>I think I rest my case.&nbsp;  <img src='http://country-of-liars.com/us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help. 

I spent 5 years almost everyday with my brother&#039;s wife. They just had a baby. I started a business with her, worked my butt off for low pay, even as sales sky rocketed, she convinced me I was getting paid dirt for better of the company. Meanwhile I was away from my kids for 10-12 hour days getting paid dirt for designing and developing the product we sold. I started to feel like I was going crazy but finally felt so taken advantage of after 4 years, I left. 

I just felt in my gut something was very wrong. She seemed obsessed with me, wanted to be my best friend, wanted to know so much about me, wanted to travel with me, etc. I woke up one day feeling as if the floor underneath me was taken. My parents were so upset with her for treating me like garbage and being manipulative. I tired to have a fair separation happen but she felt she owned all of the work and all of the business. My Dad tried to speak and help me get out. This did not happen. I lost everything. 

My Dad also got a long letter describing my character, insulting me, telling them I did not do much or deserve any part of the biz, etc. I can&#039;t forgive this and feel she has shown zero guilt since she wrote this awful letter. Through that time she had a baby and now my parents are forgiving her, sort of, hanging out with her, having her visit for a few days, like nothing happened. They are ignoring the entire event. But I find myself paranoid that she will manipulate and somehow convince them that I am crazy. 

I do get very emotional and upset but she uses anything to have something to hold against me. It is very scary and I fear losing my relationship with my parents because I want to run very very far away from her. 

Please help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help. </p>
<p>I spent 5 years almost everyday with my brother&#8217;s wife. They just had a baby. I started a business with her, worked my butt off for low pay, even as sales sky rocketed, she convinced me I was getting paid dirt for better of the company. Meanwhile I was away from my kids for 10-12 hour days getting paid dirt for designing and developing the product we sold. I started to feel like I was going crazy but finally felt so taken advantage of after 4 years, I left. </p>
<p>I just felt in my gut something was very wrong. She seemed obsessed with me, wanted to be my best friend, wanted to know so much about me, wanted to travel with me, etc. I woke up one day feeling as if the floor underneath me was taken. My parents were so upset with her for treating me like garbage and being manipulative. I tired to have a fair separation happen but she felt she owned all of the work and all of the business. My Dad tried to speak and help me get out. This did not happen. I lost everything. </p>
<p>My Dad also got a long letter describing my character, insulting me, telling them I did not do much or deserve any part of the biz, etc. I can&#8217;t forgive this and feel she has shown zero guilt since she wrote this awful letter. Through that time she had a baby and now my parents are forgiving her, sort of, hanging out with her, having her visit for a few days, like nothing happened. They are ignoring the entire event. But I find myself paranoid that she will manipulate and somehow convince them that I am crazy. </p>
<p>I do get very emotional and upset but she uses anything to have something to hold against me. It is very scary and I fear losing my relationship with my parents because I want to run very very far away from her. </p>
<p>Please help.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://country-of-liars.com/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome Magenta,

No matter how many times I read a story such as yours, I will still feel the pain — pain from 20 years ago, as well as 3 weeks ago.  The damage that is done, as in destroying someone&#039;s character, can never be undone.

There&#039;s no way to know what he was planning, but it&#039;s certainly not impossible.  Don&#039;t take any chances.  You and your kids (and your folks) should never think it can never happen to us.  Whatever &quot;it&quot; may be, it certainly won&#039;t be pleasant.  

If you feel physically threatened, then contact your local women&#039;s shelters, the police, the court house, and ask lots of questions. If you feel threatened, then your folks are in the same boat.  You may need to get a restraining order, but even with that, don&#039;t take any chances.

I have no idea what is going on in your husband&#039;s mind, nor do you.  These are my opinions.  Get more.  Protect yourself, your kids, and your folks.  Change the locks on your home.  

&quot;Unpredictable&quot; is one word that describes my ex-wife, and you should understand how quickly things can change.

Be careful.
Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Magenta,</p>
<p>No matter how many times I read a story such as yours, I will still feel the pain — pain from 20 years ago, as well as 3 weeks ago.  The damage that is done, as in destroying someone&#8217;s character, can never be undone.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way to know what he was planning, but it&#8217;s certainly not impossible.  Don&#8217;t take any chances.  You and your kids (and your folks) should never think it can never happen to us.  Whatever &#8220;it&#8221; may be, it certainly won&#8217;t be pleasant.  </p>
<p>If you feel physically threatened, then contact your local women&#8217;s shelters, the police, the court house, and ask lots of questions. If you feel threatened, then your folks are in the same boat.  You may need to get a restraining order, but even with that, don&#8217;t take any chances.</p>
<p>I have no idea what is going on in your husband&#8217;s mind, nor do you.  These are my opinions.  Get more.  Protect yourself, your kids, and your folks.  Change the locks on your home.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Unpredictable&#8221; is one word that describes my ex-wife, and you should understand how quickly things can change.</p>
<p>Be careful.<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Magenta</title>
		<link>http://country-of-liars.com/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Magenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was married to my husband for 23 years and knew nothing, he was so smooth until 2006 when I became terribly ill. 

The man who was a Christian Conservative, Deacon, Teacher at Church and never cussed, suddenly became a raving lunatic. He was mentally and verbally cruel however had he not left I would never have known it. 

Ok, so he ripped myself, the kids and my parents off financially and my parents are also paying for the divorce (and we realize he planned it). I now know that he has been lying to me since 1986. 

Did he plan this from the very beginning? Do they do that? Is he liable to get more dangerous once he is served the Divorce decree?

Thank you~Magenta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was married to my husband for 23 years and knew nothing, he was so smooth until 2006 when I became terribly ill. </p>
<p>The man who was a Christian Conservative, Deacon, Teacher at Church and never cussed, suddenly became a raving lunatic. He was mentally and verbally cruel however had he not left I would never have known it. </p>
<p>Ok, so he ripped myself, the kids and my parents off financially and my parents are also paying for the divorce (and we realize he planned it). I now know that he has been lying to me since 1986. </p>
<p>Did he plan this from the very beginning? Do they do that? Is he liable to get more dangerous once he is served the Divorce decree?</p>
<p>Thank you~Magenta</p>
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		<title>By: CarlyQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlyQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChristineE, you are so right.  People in power, those who have the authority to DO something, need to be woken up to the dangers of these &quot;people.&quot;  Just because they choose to con people (for power, money or sex - that&#039;s really all that seems to make these parasites tick) instead of actually going out and robbing banks doesn&#039;t make them any less dangerous to society as a whole.

If the sociopath/narcissist &quot;gene&quot; (if there is such a thing) were removed from the human DNA, can you imagine how much better this world would be?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChristineE, you are so right.  People in power, those who have the authority to DO something, need to be woken up to the dangers of these &#8220;people.&#8221;  Just because they choose to con people (for power, money or sex &#8211; that&#8217;s really all that seems to make these parasites tick) instead of actually going out and robbing banks doesn&#8217;t make them any less dangerous to society as a whole.</p>
<p>If the sociopath/narcissist &#8220;gene&#8221; (if there is such a thing) were removed from the human DNA, can you imagine how much better this world would be?!!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine E</title>
		<link>http://country-of-liars.com/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here is A LOT of the reason I think sociopaths become the way they are. I do believe half is genetics and I think the other half is definitely your up-bringing and one&#039;s status in society. 

My x-husband was ALWAYS the best ... the first grandchild, the best in football, prom king, owned biggest commodity firm, etc. ... then when he lost everything, he lost his mind. They can&#039;t take not being the best or not being in control. His Parents never taught him right from wrong. 

HE WAS NEVER WRONG....it was EVERYONE else&#039;s fault. Yeah....always everyone else. And no, they can&#039;t be fixed, yet, because they will NEVER admit there is something wrong. I am going to school to be a compounding pharmacist and my goal is to come up with a drug that can help these types of people. 

They are detrimental to society and life ruiner&#039;s or worse.....SO, I think the gov&#039;t has to put this type of personality disorder on the top of their list, they are every bit as harmful as psychopaths. Just like someone who is bi-polar and gets baker acted, I think they should have laws for people like this to be institutionalized and get the meds they need. 

There would be less crime, less lives ruined, etc...Its not a coincidence that a large % of prison inmates are sociopaths. They need rehabs and programs, because they are damaging people, society, etc... This is a topic that needs to be put up in the ranks on the FBI list. They need to know more about these kinds of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is A LOT of the reason I think sociopaths become the way they are. I do believe half is genetics and I think the other half is definitely your up-bringing and one&#8217;s status in society. </p>
<p>My x-husband was ALWAYS the best &#8230; the first grandchild, the best in football, prom king, owned biggest commodity firm, etc. &#8230; then when he lost everything, he lost his mind. They can&#8217;t take not being the best or not being in control. His Parents never taught him right from wrong. </p>
<p>HE WAS NEVER WRONG&#8230;.it was EVERYONE else&#8217;s fault. Yeah&#8230;.always everyone else. And no, they can&#8217;t be fixed, yet, because they will NEVER admit there is something wrong. I am going to school to be a compounding pharmacist and my goal is to come up with a drug that can help these types of people. </p>
<p>They are detrimental to society and life ruiner&#8217;s or worse&#8230;..SO, I think the gov&#8217;t has to put this type of personality disorder on the top of their list, they are every bit as harmful as psychopaths. Just like someone who is bi-polar and gets baker acted, I think they should have laws for people like this to be institutionalized and get the meds they need. </p>
<p>There would be less crime, less lives ruined, etc&#8230;Its not a coincidence that a large % of prison inmates are sociopaths. They need rehabs and programs, because they are damaging people, society, etc&#8230; This is a topic that needs to be put up in the ranks on the FBI list. They need to know more about these kinds of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am dealing with a family of sociopaths and narcissists. 

It&#039;s me against my x-husband, his Mom, his Dad, his Aunt and numerous others. They are trying to take my Daughter away just to get back at me. They lied, set me up, mentally abused me for almost 8 years. I know how it is. 

You gotta stay strong and firm and NEVER give up no matter how many times you get knocked down.....and you will get knocked down because they are able to make people who are on your side one day, to turn on you the next and again, you have to not stop and just keep showing who you are and what your REALLY about. 

It&#039;s an EXHAUSTING battle, but in the end, the web of lies WILL unfold. I have trial July 21st, If I dont win, then they are paying people off. Please everyone pray for me. Anyone on here that has dealt with these kind of people know how it is. 

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am dealing with a family of sociopaths and narcissists. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s me against my x-husband, his Mom, his Dad, his Aunt and numerous others. They are trying to take my Daughter away just to get back at me. They lied, set me up, mentally abused me for almost 8 years. I know how it is. </p>
<p>You gotta stay strong and firm and NEVER give up no matter how many times you get knocked down&#8230;..and you will get knocked down because they are able to make people who are on your side one day, to turn on you the next and again, you have to not stop and just keep showing who you are and what your REALLY about. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an EXHAUSTING battle, but in the end, the web of lies WILL unfold. I have trial July 21st, If I dont win, then they are paying people off. Please everyone pray for me. Anyone on here that has dealt with these kind of people know how it is. </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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